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...I post all those responses--and your only counter is to an aside I made--and the effect of that counter is to undermine your own position? Should I take that as a concession?
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You keep talking about greedy old bastards hoging the planet. But I ask why should future generations be more entitled to it?
You are forgetting a simple point; all humans are greedy bastards. Just because we are kind enough to roll over and decline pursuing life extension this dosen't mean future generations will be as "altruistic".
I don't know about you but if there are immortal bastards hogging the planet I prefer it to be the greedy bastards of our generation than some other.
This vid filled with quite a few is semi-relavant quotes I would particulary direct you to the one at 1:18 :
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Well if I'm posting SMAC vids I may as well indulge
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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strangely I'm now in the mood to play SMAC
in any case I haven't read every post. But have you addressed the overcrowding issue yet? Or are you of the belief that it's every man for himself? And those without resources (ie Africa) will suffer.Comment
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Ah, yes, "If we don't do it, then someone else will," and "better me than you." Perfect moral arguments. Remind me again of the ethics of them? And since you're using pop-culture examples for some reason, does that mean that, in the two-ships-with-bombs scenario in The Dark Knight, the correct action was to blow up the other ship post-haste?Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
My PC's sound is glitchy. Care to just tell me, or paraphrase?This vid filled with quite a few is semi-relavant quotes I would particulary direct you to the one at 1:18 :Comment
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No ethics in this argument, just pragmatism and a bit of common sense. Or have you risen above things such as greed and self-preservation?Originally posted by Elok View Post
Imagine you are 35 years old and terminally ill, you can take an expensive drug that will save your life or you can take that money and ensure an African child recieves vaccination, good food and an education.
Realisticaly what do you do? What do most people do? Do they make room? Is it realistic to expect them to make room for the young?
The correct action =/= moral action if we are in game theory territory.Originally posted by Elok View Post
Turn off the sound, watch the vid the quotes are written out.Originally posted by Elok View PostModern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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page 2 of the threadOriginally posted by Dis View PostModern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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I still think overcrowding will be a serious issue.
But I would have no problem living 500 or 1000 years while everyone else has normal lifespans.
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Why can't this thread just die?"Comment
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It's immortal?Comment
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Not quite. We can come up with ideas to prolong its life for several days. Only if we come up wtih ideas fast enough can we guarantee its immortality. Otherwise new ideas count as resurection.Originally posted by Dis View Post
This actually reminded me of an entirely new subject: cryogenics
BTW I fully plan on freezing my body when I die.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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What if we agree that Western Devils can live that long and the rest can STFU?Originally posted by Dis View PostI still think overcrowding will be a serious issue.
But I would have no problem living 500 or 1000 years while everyone else has normal lifespans. 
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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If we western devils follow that advice, be prepared for permanent war with the eastern world, who will aim to keep our lifespans short with bomb and bullet. Such a breakthrough, IF it is not cheap and plentiful, will open up a true Pandora's box of troubles which may have the "beneficiaries" wishing we had never chosen to enable this tech.
No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
"I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, authorComment
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