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    Jive-talking twin Transformers raise race issues
    June 24, 2009, 5:55 AM EST

    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" introduces some 40 new mechanized characters of all shapes, sizes and even sexes — but it's a pair of jive-talking 'bots that critics are singling out as more than just harmless comic relief.

    Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact Chevys, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They're forced to acknowledge that they can't read. One has a gold tooth.

    As good guys, they fight alongside the Autobots and are intended to provide comic relief. But the traits they're ascribed raise the specter of stereotypes most notably seen when Jar Jar Binks, the clumsy, broken-English speaking alien from "Star Wars: Episode I — The Phantom Menace" was criticized as a racial caricature.

    Wall Street Journal film critic Joe Morgenstern described Binks in 1999 as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit," a reference to a black character from the 1920s and '30s that exploited negative stereotypes for comic effect. Extending that metaphor to the "Transformers" sequel was AP Movie Critic Christy Lemire, who calls Skids and Mudflap "Jar Jar Binks in car form."

    And Manohla Dargis, film critic for The New York Times, takes it a step further, writing that the "Transformers" characters were given "conspicuously cartoonish, so-called black voices that indicate that minstrelsy remains as much in fashion in Hollywood as when, well, Jar Jar Binks was set loose by George Lucas."

    Director Michael Bay insists that the bumbling 'bots are just good clean fun.

    "We're just putting more personality in," Bay said. "I don't know if it's stereotypes — they are robots, by the way. These are the voice actors. This is kind of the direction they were taking the characters and we went with it."
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    TV actor Reno Wilson, who is black, voices Mudflap. Tom Kenny, the white actor behind SpongeBob SquarePants, voices Skids. Neither immediately responded to interview requests for this story.

    Bay said the twins' parts "were kind of written but not really written, so the voice actors is when we started to really kind of come up with their characters."

    "I purely did it for kids," the director said. "Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them."

    Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they followed Bay's lead in creating the twins. Still, the characters serve no real purpose in the story, and when the action gets serious, they disappear entirely, notes Tasha Robinson, associate entertainment editor at The Onion.

    "They don't really have any positive effect on the film," she said. "They only exist to talk in bad ebonics, beat each other up and talk about how stupid each other is."

    Hollywood has a track record of using negative stereotypes of black characters for comic relief, said Todd Boyd, a professor of popular culture at the University of Southern California's School of Cinematic Arts, who has not seen the "Transformers" sequel.

    Parallel Universe: 'Transformers' writers talk robots, reboots ... and racism

    "There's a history of people getting laughs at the expense of African-Americans and African-American culture," Boyd said. "These images are not completely divorced from history even though it's a new movie and even though they're robots and not humans."

    American cinema also has a tendency to deal with race indirectly, said Allyson Nadia Field, an assistant professor of cinema and media studies at the University of California, Los Angeles.

    "There's a persistent dehumanization of African-Americans throughout Hollywood that displaces issues of race onto non-human entities," said Field, who also hasn't seen the film. "It's not about skin color or robot color. It's about how their actions and language are coded racially."

    If these characters weren't animated and instead played by real black actors, "then you might have to admit that it's racist," Robinson said. "But stick it into a robot's mouth, and it's just a robot, it's OK."

    But if they're alien robots, she continued, "why do they talk like bad black stereotypes?"

    Bay brushes off any whiff of controversy.

    "Listen, you're going to have your naysayers on anything," he said. "It's like is everything going to be melba toast? It takes all forms and shapes and sizes."
    So we have alien robots who, as stated in movie 1, learned English from the internet and have personalities that are mirrors of humans. Then we get these 2 comic relief twins, who happen to sound ghetto and cause a bit of ruckus. Now Micheal Bay is called racist fore making them sound black. Well voice actors usually place voices for characters the way they want to, one of the voice actors was black, while the other was Sponge Bob. Oh no, call the NAACP there is a black sounding robot in this movie and it makes blacks look bad....somehow, not really, but we are offended.

    Honestly, we let all those black movies go by where in they make a mockery of whites every way they can, we let comedians rip on whites left and right for fun...no one cries out then. But if a robot from another world sounds like he is mocking blacks, by having a black voice *from a black voice actor* and using slang that is soft compared to what is really used, all of a sudden Bay is racist. That is just petty. Ok so maybe the Twins are a close likeness to the dreaded Jar Jar from Lucas, but calling Bay a racist for putting reality into a movie is a stretch. Such double standards. Tom Arnold could play a stupid white guy in that one stupid airplane movie, but we can't have robots sound ghetto. Sounds fair.
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the Blood of Patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson
    "I can merely plead that I'm in the presence of a superior being."- KrazyHorse

  • #2
    Michael Bay is the finest director of our generation. Of course he's not racist.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #3
      Wait, did you just say that painting over the top blackface caricatures onto transforming robots is putting reality into a movie? Really?
      Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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      • #4
        Look at the black persona in media today. Hip-hop artists and their persona's, as vast and varying as they are, can be generalized. The "ghetto" persona. That isn't how all blacks are, but that is what the common personification is. Skids and Mudflap to me seem more redneck mixed with ghetto, rather than this racist to blacks persona that the media is spinning.
        "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the Blood of Patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson
        "I can merely plead that I'm in the presence of a superior being."- KrazyHorse

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        • #5
          I'm with it. So when I start talkin' all up in the jive speak, ain't nobody better give me no sheit. Seeing as we are all color blind and all I'd also like to pontificate on fact that I minored in ebonics in college, so I am more qualified to speak in poor grammar than anyone. Fo' shizzle my nizzle...

          uh

          robots have sexes?
          Monkey!!!

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          • #6
            Oh no, the poor oppressed white male is up in arms again.
            "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
            "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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            • #7
              "There's a persistent dehumanization of African-Americans throughout Hollywood that displaces issues of race onto non-human entities," said Field, who also hasn't seen the film. "It's not about skin color or robot color. It's about how their actions and language are coded racially."
              So now a persons ethnicity and race is defined by their actions and language?
              Monkey!!!

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              • #8
                The PC police strike again... what BS!
                Keep on Civin'
                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • #9
                  People only get up in arms when the generalizations hit too close to home. I don't get upset when there is a hillbilly in a scene or or a middle aged white guy. Either laugh at all the generalizations or deplore them all in which case pretty much all media will be bland.
                  Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                  • #10
                    Skids and mudflap? Sounds like a good night out for a coprophile...
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #11
                      I think they're insulted their race is associated with chevy's

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