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  • Even Nixon Supported Abortions. . .

    In specific instances.

    June 24, 2009
    On Nixon Tapes, Ambivalence Over Abortion By CHARLIE SAVAGE
    WASHINGTON — On Jan. 23, 1973, when the Supreme Court struck down laws criminalizing abortion in Roe v. Wade, President Richard M. Nixon made no public statement. But privately, newly released tapes reveal, he expressed ambivalence.

    Nixon worried that greater access to abortions would foster “permissiveness,” and said that “it breaks the family.” But he also saw a need for abortion in some cases — like interracial pregnancies, he said.

    “There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white,” he told an aide, before adding, “Or a rape.”


    Nine months later, Nixon forced the firing of the special prosecutor looking into the Watergate affair, Archibald Cox, and prompted the resignations of Attorney General Elliot L. Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William D. Ruckelshaus. The next day, Ronald Reagan, who was then governor of California and would later be president, told the White House that he approved.

    Reagan said the action, which would become known as the “Saturday Night Massacre,” was “probably the best thing that ever happened — none of them belong where they were,” according to a Nixon aide’s notes of the private conversation.

    Those disclosures were among the revelations in more than 150 hours of tape and 30,000 pages of documents made public on Tuesday by the Nixon Presidential Library, a part of the National Archives. The audio files were posted online, as were a sampling of the documents.

    The tapes were recorded by the secret microphones in the Oval Office from January and February 1973. They shed new light on an intense moment in American history, including Nixon’s second inauguration, the Vietnam War cease-fire, and the trial of seven men over the break-in at the Democrats’ headquarters at the Watergate complex amid mounting revelations about their ties to the White House.

    The tapes also capture more mundane details of life in the White House — conversations about what to pack for a trip, when to schedule a trip to the barber, whether the president’s wife would enjoy going to Trader Vic’s for dinner.

    Most segments of the tapes relating to the Watergate scandal, which would lead to Nixon’s resignation 20 months later, have already been released. But there are some new materials that were previously held back because the audio quality was so poor that archives officials could not be certain whether they contained discussion of any classified topics. Improvements in audio technology have allowed archives staff to clear additional ones.

    They include a Jan. 5, 1973, conversation between Nixon and his aide Charles W. Colson in which they discussed the possibility of granting clemency to E. Howard Hunt Jr., one of the Watergate conspirators, according to a log compiled by archives staff. Scholars say the same topic was addressed in several other tapes that were previously made public.

    The documents also include nine pages of handwritten notes by a domestic policy aide about plans for what the White House would say about the dismissal of the Watergate special prosecutor, Mr. Cox.

    The tapes also provide new material about the circumstances surrounding the Paris treaty to end the United States’ military involvement in Vietnam.

    A call between Nixon and Mr. Colson just after midnight on Jan. 20 showed that Nixon anticipated, when the treaty was announced, that he would be vindicated for continuing to bomb North Vietnam. He especially relished the hit that he believed members of Congress who opposed the war — whose public statements he pronounced “treasonable” — would suffer.

    Several conversations center on the pressure Nixon placed on South Vietnam’s president, Nguyen Van Thieu, to accept the cease-fire agreement. Ken Hughes, a Nixon scholar and research fellow at the Presidential Recordings Project at the University of Virginia, said he was struck by listening on one of the new tapes to Nixon’s telling his national security adviser, Henry A. Kissinger, that to get Thieu to sign the treaty, he would “cut off his head if necessary.”

    Mr. Hughes said the conversation bolstered his view that Nixon, Thieu and Mr. Kissinger knew at the time that the cease-fire could not endure, and that it was not “peace with honor,” as Nixon described it, so much as a face-saving way for the United States to get out of the war. In 1975, North Vietnam would violate the cease-fire and conquer South Vietnam.

    The tapes also include a phone call from February 1973 between Nixon and the evangelist Billy Graham, during which Mr. Graham complained that Jewish-American leaders were opposing efforts to promote evangelical Christianity, like Campus Crusade. The two men agreed that the Jewish leaders risked setting off anti-Semitic sentiment.

    “What I really think is deep down in this country, there is a lot of anti-Semitism, and all this is going to do is stir it up,” Nixon said.

    At another point he said: “It may be they have a death wish. You know that’s been the problem with our Jewish friends for centuries.”

    The documents also include three newly declassified pages from a National Security Council brief discussing secret Israeli efforts to build a nuclear weapon.
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

  • #2
    Nixon was a great president

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    • #3
      lol, is that for real?

      I think Nixon was a fine president, apart from this Watergate thing. But this is ridiculous.
      "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
      I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
      Middle East!

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      • #4
        Nixon knew about the threat posed by Obama and wanted to nip it in the bud. Truly a great visionary.

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        • #5
          See, pro-choice folks couldn't ask for a better friend and advocate than tricky dick. They should put his image up on tv ads.
          Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

          When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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          • #6
            Nixon was a despicable president.
            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
              Nixon knew about the threat posed by Obama and wanted to nip it in the bud. Truly a great visionary.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                Lincoln was a despicable president.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  I think abortion should definitely be an acceptable option when two modern-day Republicans have bred with one another.
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #10
                    I'm for post-natal abortion
                    Monkey!!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                      I think abortion should definitely be an acceptable option when two modern-day Republicans have bred with one another.
                      Gee, being a modern day republican, I take offense to that.
                      I don't do gay bashing, and I would appreciate the same consideration.
                      Maybe I should start painting all gays with the same broad evil stroke that you do to republicans.
                      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                      • #12
                        Why isn't anyone researching a gay vaccination?
                        Monkey!!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rah View Post
                          Gee, being a modern day republican, I take offense to that.
                          I don't do gay bashing, and I would appreciate the same consideration.
                          Maybe I should start painting all gays with the same broad evil stroke that you do to republicans.
                          No one here has taken offense at Nixon's racism in the OP.

                          I thought by usiing something similarly offensive that affects more people here, I can show how bigoted Nixon's statement was. Instead, people here seem to think that Nixon's statement was "funny."

                          My statement was for shock value - not to express how I really feel about all Republicans.
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • #14
                            Those comments being bigoted are too obvious to comment on. People on this site seek a challenge.
                            Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                            When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                            • #15
                              I thought everyone was already aware of Nixon's racist attitudes and didn't feel the need to preach about the evils of it. Guess MrFun thought that a preaching opportunity couldn't be wasted.
                              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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