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1858 - 1855. I think you mean devolved?
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Who is Lincoln?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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I think he designed a car."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
No, because we know MrFun is a racist, so in his view it took Lincoln a while to see the light.Comment
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I thought Lincolns were rebadged Fords.Originally posted by Wezil View Post"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Wasn't Ford a former president?"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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I'm so confused!"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Did anyone here study history???"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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His PERSONAL beliefs on race changed over time to the point of being very progressive for his time period. What Ries quoted and other similar racist quotes are examples of, are when Lincoln had to appeal to racist voters.Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
What I had quoted was a personal letter he had written to a good friend of his. Also later on, toward the end of his life, he wanted to test the idea of equal suffrage for blacks by extending voting rights to black men in Louisiana as part of his Reconstruction plans. Lincoln also carried out friendly, respectful correspondence with Frederick Douglas and visited with him at least a couple of times.
His ideas on blacks did not devolve - it evolved and it also depended on whether we are looking at his persnoal correspondence that express his true beliefs/values, and also whether we're looking at when he was publicaly addressing staunchly racist voting audiences, or somewhat more open-minded/progressive voters.
Lincoln had become progressive in his view point on race, even if for pragmatic reasons, he had to appeal to voters during a time when white supremacist ideology was mainstream and all too commonplace.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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WHO IS LINCOLN?
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Bunch of people talking about someone no one knows!
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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George Lincoln Rockwell, founder of the American Nazi Party. Basically, Mr. Fun is arguing that this guy and his followers were not a racist.Originally posted by Asher View PostWHO IS LINCOLN?
Club thread Bunch of people talking about someone no one knows!
BTW, I've found a new avatar for Mr. Fun:
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I'm so glad I never had any students like you guys when I taught history classes.
A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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"Did anyone here study history??? "
LOL this is the funniest thing Asher has said in a long time on some levels...
Asher, showing his contempt for lowly BA proles yet again..."Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
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