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  • London: V2 rocket engine comes in as second in Science Museum top ten innovations

    I know you guys have it with the irony thing, but sometimes it's just weird

    Which was the more important innovation - the railway revolution ushered in by Stephenson's Rocket or the life-saving achievements of penicillin?

    The Science Museum in London has chosen a top 10 list of its most significant objects, as part of events marking its centenary.

    The public will be invited to vote on this list of scientific breakthroughs.

    These "icons" of science will become part of a centenary trail for visitors to the South Kensington museum.

    There have already been expressions of support for particular objects.

    Best inventions

    Trevor Baylis, the inventor, says he would vote for the V2 rocket engine.


    SCIENCE MUSEUM TOP 10
    Steam engine
    V2 rocket engine
    Electric telegraph
    Stephenson's Rocket
    X-ray machine
    Model T Ford
    Penicillin
    Pilot ACE Computer
    DNA double helix
    Apollo 10 capsule

    Send us your comments

    "It's one of the greatest achievements of our time because it led to space exploration, and then satellite development, which then led to mobile phones and the astounding communication services we enjoy today," he said.

    Alice Roberts, television presenter and doctor, says she would vote for the invention of the X-ray machine.

    "X-rays provided the first possibility of looking inside someone's body without cutting them open, a massive medical advance."

    The museum's chief curator, Tim Boon, wants the top 10 to spark debate about the value of inventions and discoveries.

    The hands of George V and Queen Mary
    The hands of George V and Queen Mary in an X-ray

    Others in the list include the steam engine and Stephenson's Rocket, the electric telegraph, Model T Ford, penicillin, Pilot ACE computer, DNA double helix and the Apollo 10 capsule.

    "What did we miss, is there an alternative top 10? Some of the objects may divide opinion.

    "Would we be better off if some of the icons, which have had negative consequences, had not been invented?"

    The Science Museum's origins lay in the Great Exhibition of 1851, with funds from the industrial showcase being used to begin a network of museums and libraries in South Kensington.

    The first building, known as the South Kensington Museum, was opened to the public in 1857.

    The centenary being celebrated this year is the creation in 1909 of a separately administered museum in a new building, which formally adopted the title "Science Museum".
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    Last edited by BeBMan; June 11, 2009, 10:06.
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  • #2
    Pretty good list, but where is the atomic bomb?

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    • #3
      Discoveries, not innovations:

      Penicillin
      DNA double helix
      Monkey!!!

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      • #4
        Is that a meaningful distinction? I mean, when it comes to penicillin the difficult part was to manufacture it in significant amounts.

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        • #5
          Steam Engine,
          Electric telegraph,
          Penecillin.

          Those are the top three, without them our way of life just could not exist.
          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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          • #6
            1. Beer
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            • #7
              Krill

              I'm allergic to penicillin, drive a car made after 1905 and communicate via cell phone and the internet. According to my calculation, those 3 innovations are therefore completely irrelevant to me.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Japher View Post
                Discoveries, not innovations:

                DNA double helix
                Silly evolutionist.
                Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                • #9
                  The introduction of the double helix is a clear improvement over the single helix, so innovation
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                    I'm allergic to penicillin, drive a car made after 1905 and communicate via cell phone and the internet. According to my calculation, those 3 innovations are therefore completely irrelevant to me.
                    Penicillin started all modern research into antibiotics; I assume you aren't allergic to everything?
                    The Steam engine started the industrial revolution, without which there wouldn't be any cars.
                    The internet is 100% wireless now? And how do you get electricity into your home btw?
                    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                    • #11
                      Well, it's kinda arbitrary still. You'll never have the one and only list. Take the V2 rocket thing - why not start with smaller rocket engines that were in use already for a while? Or Ford T - why not the car as such, or the combustion engine.
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                      • #12
                        The V2 was the basis for both the US and USSR rocket programs. I don't know whether the engine of the V2 is top 10 important, but it's very important. In particular, use of a turbopump was initiated in the V2 program.

                        But it's based on what artifacts the museum has in its collection. If it had the Wright Flyer, like the Air and Space Museum here in DC has, then I assume it would be near the top.
                        Last edited by DanS; June 11, 2009, 11:07.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BeBro View Post
                          Well, it's kinda arbitrary still. You'll never have the one and only list. Take the V2 rocket thing - why not start with smaller rocket engines that were in use already for a while? Or Ford T - why not the car as such, or the combustion engine.
                          Out of the items given, those three should be at the top.
                          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Krill View Post
                            The internet is 100% wireless now? And how do you get electricity into your home btw?
                            Power transmission doesn't depend on telegraphy. And AFAIK telegraphs did not operate on TCP/IP protocol.

                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #15
                              IIRC (could be wrong) the original research into electric telegraphs was also used for the power grids. Can't have one without t'other.

                              And the internet originally used the phone lines (and hence telegraphs) to communicate, right?
                              You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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