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  • Oops, I tend to equate the two.



    You really shouldn't. TARP is a good program that has been corrupted over time. The stimulus is a bad program that was corrupt from the start.
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    • Tarp = BOOOSH

      Porkulus = Pelosi
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      • Indy Star has weighed in on this in today's front page. Claims that the stim successfully propped up state and local govts and made good progress in aiding/ building new schools and hospitals. Not so good a grade wrt home refinance/foreclosure abatement.
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        • Originally posted by Theben View Post
          Indy Star has weighed in on this in today's front page. Claims that the stim successfully propped up state and local govts and made good progress in aiding/ building new schools and hospitals. Not so good a grade wrt home refinance/foreclosure abatement.
          By that you mean that stimulus funding went to support non sustainable state and local government budgets that needed to be cut but weren't.
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          • Stolen from Greg Mankiw...

            David Leonhardt on why the stimulus is a success

            Phil Levy on the problems with David Leonhardt's argument

            I think Levy gets the better of the argument, but that's hardly surprising given my already stated opinion of the stimulus.
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            • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
              Oops, I tend to equate the two.



              You really shouldn't. TARP is a good program that has been corrupted over time. The stimulus is a bad program that was corrupt from the start.
              Wrong. Tarp is a bad program from the start and is being improved upon.
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              • Don't turn away from Christ, Kiddy. Your Christian posting is much less-objectionable than your stupid economics posting.
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                • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                  Don't turn away from Christ, Kiddy. Your Christian posting is much less-objectionable than your stupid economics posting.
                  How are my economics postings not Christian?
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                  • Christ wouldn't approve of the Congressional slush-fund that TARP is being turned into.
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                    • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                      Christ wouldn't approve of the Congressional slush-fund that TARP is being turned into.
                      Since your not being clear. I'll just say that Christ doesn't approve of TARP at all, and progress has been made to make it better such as preventing greedy bank executives from using TARP funds for bonuses and such.
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                      • http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...atestheadlines

                        WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--Sen. Sherrod Brown (D., Ohio) on Thursday introduced legislation that would slap a 50% tax on bonuses given to executives at firms that received funds from the Treasury Department's Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP.

                        Brown's bill would apply to all bonuses in excess of $25,000, an even stricter threshold than a similar bill introduced by Rep. Peter Welch (D., Vt.) in the House. Revenues from Brown's bill would go to fund a Small Business Administration direct-lending program.

                        Brown in a statement argued that Wall Street firms that benefited from taxpayer support should return the favor to "Main Street."

                        "If a big firm that received taxpayer help is now paying out massive bonuses, they should be able to help American small businesses expand operations and hire new workers," Brown said.

                        Brown's bill comes at a time when Democrats have shown an inclination to take on Wall Street firms that benefit from bailout funds and other federal-government actions to stabilize banks in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis. Senators Barbara Boxer (D., Calif.) and Jim Webb, (D., Va.) have introduced a measure that would levy a 50% tax on bonuses above $400,000 but only for firms that received $5 billion or more in TARP funding.
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                        • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                          Christ wouldn't approve of the Congressional slush-fund that TARP is being turned into.
                          Seems more of a Presidential slush fund atm. Was it ever under Congressional control?
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                          • Given that Congress wrote the law creating TARP and has to amend said law to allow any use of TARP funds for new purposes, I think it's pretty clear that Congress has ultimate control over how TARP is run.
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                            • Well it was nice debating you Drake. I guess we can expect more articles.
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                              • Did you really expect a debate on whether your economics are "christian" or not? That's an absolutely ludicrous debate, even by Poly standards.
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