Speculative future society prediction thread

[Kuciwalker]

True, but I was making my assumption based on the idea that machines and not humans would be the primary labor force of the future.

This is the statement you took issue with, even though it's obviously true.

And yes, you've stumbled on the brilliant discovery that people prefer MORE STUFF to MORE LEISURE, and thus if labor productivity increases they will continue working similar hours for more money instead of fewer hours for the same amount of money.

I dare you to find something sinister about that.

[ricketyclik]

True, but I was making my assumption based on the idea that machines and not humans would be the primary labor force of the future.

This is the statement you took issue with, even though it's obviously true.

If you re-read the thread, you will see my original statement was in relation to AC's post, and that you read the above statement in to it.

And yes, you've stumbled on the brilliant discovery that people prefer MORE STUFF to MORE LEISURE, and thus if labor productivity increases they will continue working similar hours for more money instead of fewer hours for the same amount of money.

Gee, thanks oh condescending one

I dare you to find something sinister about that.

I aleady made my position clear on that: it is the result of capitalists constantly reinforcing our hunter-gatherer instincts to satisfy their own.

[Kuciwalker]

Gee, thanks oh condescending one

You're welcome, I could tell you needed the help

I already made my position clear on that: it is the result of capitalists constantly reinforcing our hunter-gatherer instincts to satisfy their own.

[Kuciwalker]

btw, why do you care if the capitalists really have somehow manipulated people into that preference? You're still perfectly free to choose less stuff and more leisure.

[ricketyclik]

btw, why do you care if the capitalists really have somehow manipulated people into that preference? You're still perfectly free to choose less stuff and more leisure.

Because it encourages the capitalists to go on exploiting the 3rd world and the environment. And I keep getting sucked in to buying stuff I don't need.

[MOBIUS]

Don't mind Kuci. He's just like that...

His basic argument is wrong. People do not prefer more stuff to leisure - they are just conditioned all their lives to consume like sheep by the industrialists who enrich themselves on that very idea.

Once you decouple yourself from such a flawed way of life, as I have, you realise that there is more to life than mere 'stuff'. Time is the most important commodity to a human being - something that most people on this planet only seem to realise when they have none left...

Kuci's model is also fatally flawed in the fact that peak oil will soon render growth, as we currently understand it, virtually impossible.

[ricketyclik]

Time is the most important commodity to a human being - something that most people on this planet only seem to realise when they have none left...

I think I'm just starting to realise this, and have only just begun putting my mind to what to do about it.

[Traianvs]

Ever heard of this thing called evolution?

Yes. And if I understand where you're going at: that's irrelevant here.

[MOBIUS]

Exactly, it took our ancestors roughly 65 million years to evolve from tiny shrew-like animals into human beings and take over the planet after the last global cataclysm - kinda a long time if you ask me...

[Alinestra Covelia]

And in less than 50 million years, a gigantic gas cloud will collide with the Milky Way and pwn everything in it.