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    More to the Maureen Dowd Plagiarism than She Admits
    May 18, 2009, 11:51PM

    Maureen Dowd now admits that one paragraph of her Sunday column actually comes from a blog post of Josh Marshall's (as thejoshuablog first reported at TPM cafe). http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_204418.html

    It turns out, though, that that's not the only thing in her column that comes from Josh. Two paragraphs above the one she has changed to be a quotation from Marshall's original post, she has a phrase that also comes straight from Josh, the description of a captured Iraqi official as "an old-fashioned P.O.W." Here is Josh at http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/arc...5/bubbling.php

    "(Also worth noting is that an Iraqi intelligence official captured during the invasion would, I think, very clearly be an old fashioned POW.)"

    Here is Dowd in the revised online version of her column: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17dowd.html

    "Even though this man was an old-fashioned P.O.W., someone in Vice's orbit reportedly suggested that the interrogations were too gentle and that waterboarding might elicit information about the fantasized connection between Osama and Saddam."

    Dowd's explanation for lifting the paragraph was that she had not read Josh's post but that a friend told her the line. Frankly, this does not sound very plausible. But when we add in that she used an additional very distinct phrase, in an entirely different paragraph, its plausibility disappears to the vanishing point. Or did her friend tell her that line, too?


    I wonder how Biden is feeling right now given her role in killing his '88 campaign over this issue.
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    What's the big deal? Dowd simply watched and learned.

    But apparently, she forgot about the whole "getting caught and spit-roasted" part.
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    • #3
      There's a thread on this already

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      • #4
        There is?
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        • #5
          This is such a perfect story. Idiotic leftwing NYT columnist gets caught plagiarizing from a leftwing blog that is literally named "Talking Points Memo"...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
            This is such a perfect story. Idiotic leftwing NYT columnist gets caught plagiarizing from a leftwing blog that is literally named "Talking Points Memo"...
            That was my thought as well.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
              This is such a perfect story. Idiotic leftwing NYT columnist gets caught plagiarizing from a leftwing blog that is literally named "Talking Points Memo"...
              I'm glad you aren't partisan.
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              • #8
                I'm glad you aren't partisan.


                I think it's pretty clear that MoDo is the partisan one.
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                • #9
                  What? Are you saying that her flowery prose about Dick Cheney could be biased? I don't believe it!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                    I think it's pretty clear that MoDo is at least as partisan as I am.
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                    I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                    I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                    • #11
                      Drake's left of center himself. He's not being partisan.
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                      • #12
                        I always thought Drake was right of center.
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                        • #13
                          Jayson Blair must be kicking himself about now in jealousy over the support management is giving his new found compatriot.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            I always thought Drake was right of center.


                            I'm a Columbia grad student and live in Manhattan.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                              I always thought Drake was right of center.


                              I'm a Columbia grad student and live in Manhattan.


                              When was last time you voted Democrat, Mr. wanna-be-left-of-center?
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