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  • #16
    Well, Che i hope you are not trying to say it was right to engage in gay bashing... ;D

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    • #17
      9/11 was an act of political violence by rightists.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
        According to the Feds, there is a huge rise in right-wing extremist groups right now.
        Yes, we've all seen the report stating that Pat and Lonestar are future terrorist leaders.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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        • #19
          Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
          How much you want to bet that a number of those tea baggers have links to anti-abortion groups? Those groups are quite violent, even the ones that don't engage in bombings and murder.
          Just out of curiosity, how are they nonviolent if they don't murder? Are there groups out there that just rough people up a little outside of clinics, then let them go?

          In the end, the real lesson to be learned from this is that people of all political persuasions turn violence. The leftists riot like morons and get tear-gassed or pepper-sprayed into submission, while the right-wingers do covert, planned violence that gets some results. If you're going to be politically violent, it's better to be a Nazi than a Commie.
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          • #20
            Or a Maoist
            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
            "Capitalism ho!"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
              Violence against gays is rampant in the U.S. It's not the left engaging in gay bashing.
              yeah . . .
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • #22
                Generally, I don't think violence against gays is political violence because it generally is not done to prove a political point. Abortion clinic bombings and the like most often are political violence. 9/11 may have been an act of political violence by rightists (fun one there monolith), but they aren't rightists on the American political spectrum. The OK city bombing is a good example of political violence. It's on the right in the US, but has no analog in places like Europe, as far as I know.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Timexwatch View Post
                  Rioting is a slap on the wrist charge Unless they can tell who incited the riot, it's a misdemeanor.
                  That's too bad. Apparently, they caused $110,000 in damage to the bank alone.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Elok View Post
                    Just out of curiosity, how are they nonviolent if they don't murder? Are there groups out there that just rough people up a little outside of clinics, then let them go?
                    If I slap you, is that violent or non-violent?

                    Pro-lifers frequently (which is not to say most of the time, but often enough) engage in pinching, spitting, slaps. One of my friends was punched while walking through a hotel lobby and wearing a pro-choice button.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DanS View Post
                      Generally, I don't think violence against gays is political violence because it generally is not done to prove a political point.
                      Killing or beating people because you disagree with their sexuality isn't political?
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #26
                        Nope. Not generally. You have to look at the intent and the reasons that they used in committing the violence.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #27
                          It's terrorism.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • #28
                            I would say that in the context of the US today, it could be considered political. If those who commit gay bashing are influenced by public discussions of political/legal questions like gay marriage then I would consider it political violence in addition to a hate crime (a term which I wish had no legal status by the way).
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                            • #29
                              You would have to look on a case-by-case basis on motives and what they hope to achieve by the violence.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                                I would say that in the context of the US today, it could be considered political. If those who commit gay bashing are influenced by public discussions of political/legal questions like gay marriage then I would consider it political violence in addition to a hate crime (a term which I wish had no legal status by the way).
                                Gay marriage and the like are very recent political questions. I would have to see that violence against gays has gone up in the last few years to term it political. Mostly, I think that violence against gays doesn't have a political end in mind.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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