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    Seeing as not too long ago, Boris wanted to absolutely destroy Alberta's economy due to his assertions about environmental sustainability, this article puts him in an untenable situation in which he is left no choice but to eat his own testicles:



    B.C. snags top spot in green report card; Alberta gets high marks



    British Columbia gets the top ranking in a comprehensive "green" report card being issued today that evaluates the environmental performance of Canadian provinces and territories.

    The comparison, calculated by Toronto-based Corporate Knights magazine, rates Ontario and the three sparsely populated territories just behind British Columbia. But the next best ranking is more of a surprise: Alberta beats out Quebec, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and all the Atlantic provinces.

    One reason for Alberta's relatively high position is that the study looked at many environmental factors beyond greenhouse-gas emissions. It ranked each province on 10 key categories, including water use, biodiversity, waste management, energy consumption and transportation. (The results were weighted by population or gross domestic product, to adjust for the varying sizes of the provinces.)

    Alberta gets top marks for a high percentage of sustainable forests, for instance, and for a large number of green-certified homes.

    "Climate change and greenhouse gases have become the pre-eminent definer of [environmental] performance," said Corporate Knights editor Toby Heaps. "[But] biodiversity, green jobs and waste per capita are also important."

    A new land-use framework that is in the works in Alberta will probably further strengthen its position in the future, Mr. Heaps said.

    Still, Alberta does come dead last on the air-quality score, mainly because of its greenhouse-gas emissions.

    British Columbia's No. 1 ranking results from its top position in providing green jobs, constructing green buildings, growing organic food and its efficient use of energy.

    At the bottom of the list is Prince Edward Island. While it is known as a green oasis, the province came out badly because of its poor energy efficiency, high dependence on cars, few green buildings and its almost complete lack of protected land.

    Quebec's relatively low ranking is partly a result of its notoriously leaky water infrastructure, which boosts its per capita water use, Mr. Heaps said. The province also has a relatively small proportion of land set aside for ecological preservation.

    It did, however, rank first for carbon efficiency per unit of economic output, thanks to its hydroelectric generating capacity.

    Mr. Heaps said this is the first broad grading of Canada's ecological performance that looks at the relative strengths of the provinces. He said he hopes it prompts a more nuanced analysis of provincial government policies.

    The magazine didn't conduct new research for the report but compiled the information from government data and surveys conducted by independent environmental organizations.

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    Report card
    PROVINCE SCORE*
    British Columbia 69
    Ontario 67
    Northwest Territories 66
    Yukon Territory 57
    Nunavut 56
    Alberta 55
    Nova Scotia 53
    Saskatchewan 50
    Quebec 49
    Manitoba 46
    New Brunswick 40
    Newfoundland 38
    Prince Edward Island 32

    Source: Corporate Knights

    *out of 100
    Quebec! In the bottom half! WHY?
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  • #2
    Are the marks correlated to the % of each factor relative to actual disruption?
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    • #3
      Yes, because "actual disruption" is quantifiable.

      One could argue the damage caused by all of the hydro dams is extremely disruptive. Quantifiably...
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      • #4
        Damage caused by dams is mostly qualifiable (displaced natives). What damage are you thinking of?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
          Damage caused by dams is mostly qualifiable (displaced natives). What damage are you thinking of?
          Quantitative. # of natives displaced, # of animals displaced, areas of land flooded.

          I find it funny hydro advocates think global warming is the end of the world. Hydro requires land flooding anyway.
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          • #6
            a) aren't the oil wells built on native land anyway?
            b) there are obviously many possible flaws in the study, I just don't have the time to discuss them now
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
              a) aren't the oil wells built on native land anyway?
              No. Are you even talking about oil wells here? Or oil sands. Do you even know what I am talking about? Or the difference?

              b) there are obviously many possible flaws in the study, I just don't have the time to discuss them now


              You just have no idea what Canada is like, is all. Alberta's very green in many ways that you probably don't know about. For instance, the world's North America's most used LRT system which also happens to be 100% emission free (wind-generated electricity). Higher recycling rate compared to Quebec and Ontario. Better electronics recycling (for years there's been mandatory electronics recycling fees built into all purchases, and accessible recycling depots). Homes in Alberta are built to stricter energy and water efficiency requirements. Things like that.

              Yes, we dig up baby dinosaurs and burn them, but there's more to it than that.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Asher View Post
                Quantitative. # of natives displaced, # of animals displaced, areas of land flooded.

                I find it funny hydro advocates think global warming is the end of the world. Hydro requires land flooding anyway.
                Yeah, but it's useless land filled with natives. We get power AND we get to displace natives.

                Win-win
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                • #9
                  2 secs of googling turns the following:

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                  • #10
                    Of course, it's not technically "native land" if you steal it from them...

                    I'll be back later.
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                    • #11
                      But with global warming, the coastal cities get flooded. Coastal cities are populated with hippies.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
                        Of course, it's not technically "native land" if you steal it from them...
                        Oil Sands != Oil Wells

                        The article also clearly mentions the oil sands are not on Native land. If you knew how to read, anyway.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
                          Of course, it's not technically "native land" if you steal it from them...
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            But with global warming, the coastal cities get flooded. Coastal cities are populated with hippies.
                            While they do have more than their fair share of hippies, coastal cities are actually quite fun. Most of the places I'd really like to live are on coasts (NY, SF, Seattle, Vancouver, Boston, London, New Orleans). The ones not on coasts: Montreal, Chicago (can't think of any others I'd really like to live in; not to say I wouldn't live anywhere else)
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                            • #15
                              VANCOUVER? The CANUCKS play there.
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