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    Sources: Wiretap Recorded Rep. Harman Promising to Intervene for AIPAC
    By Jeff Stein, CQ SpyTalk Columnist

    Rep. Jane Harman , the California Democrat with a longtime involvement in intelligence issues, was overheard on an NSA wiretap telling a suspected Israeli agent that she would lobby the Justice Department to reduce espionage-related charges against two officials of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee, the most powerful pro-Israel organization in Washington.

    Harman was recorded saying she would “waddle into” the AIPAC case “if you think it’ll make a difference,” according to two former senior national security officials familiar with the NSA transcript.

    In exchange for Harman’s help, the sources said, the suspected Israeli agent pledged to help lobby Nancy Pelosi , D-Calif., then-House minority leader, to appoint Harman chair of the Intelligence Committee after the 2006 elections, which the Democrats were heavily favored to win.

    Seemingly wary of what she had just agreed to, according to an official who read the NSA transcript, Harman hung up after saying, “This conversation doesn’t exist.”

    Harman declined to discuss the wiretap allegations, instead issuing an angry denial through a spokesman.

    “These claims are an outrageous and recycled canard, and have no basis in fact,” Harman said in a prepared statement. “I never engaged in any such activity. Those who are peddling these false accusations should be ashamed of themselves.”

    It’s true that allegations of pro-Israel lobbyists trying to help Harman get the chairmanship of the intelligence panel by lobbying and raising money for Pelosi aren’t new.

    They were widely reported in 2006, along with allegations that the FBI launched an investigation of Harman that was eventually dropped for a “lack of evidence.”

    What is new is that Harman is said to have been picked up on a court-approved NSA tap directed at alleged Israel covert action operations in Washington.

    And that, contrary to reports that the Harman investigation was dropped for “lack of evidence,” it was Alberto R. Gonzales, President Bush’s top counsel and then attorney general, who intervened to stop the Harman probe.

    Why? Because, according to three top former national security officials, Gonzales wanted Harman to be able to help defend the administration’s warrantless wiretapping program, which was about break in The New York Times and engulf the White House.

    continued ...
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    Justice Department attorneys in the intelligence and public corruption units who read the transcripts decided that Harman had committed a “completed crime,” a legal term meaning that there was evidence that she had attempted to complete it, three former officials said.

    And they were prepared to open a case on her, which would include electronic surveillance approved by the so-called FISA Court, the secret panel established by the 1979 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to hear government wiretap requests.


    But that’s when, according to knowledgeable officials, Attorney General Gonzales intervened.

    According to two officials privy to the events, Gonzales said he “needed Jane” to help support the administration’s warrantless wiretapping program, which was about to be exposed by the New York Times.

    Harman, he told Goss, had helped persuade the newspaper to hold the wiretap story before, on the eve of the 2004 elections. And although it was too late to stop the Times from publishing now, she could be counted on again to help defend the program.


    quid pro quo: in exchange for making the charges go away, Harman had to support the illegal wire tapping program
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #3
      Awesome

      And by Awesome I really mean
      "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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      • #4
        1. Is this the "congressperson spied on!" story, but with an unexpected twist?

        2. Remember, if you suggest that there is a powerful pro-Israeli (pro-Likudite, more like) lobby in the US that influences things like political nominations, you sir are just like David Duke!

        -Arrian
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • #5
          This conversation doesn't exist.


          People actually say that? I thought it was just a bad movie cliche.
          "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
          "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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          • #6
            Life imitates art.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #7
              Gee, anonymous and unconfirmable accusations about a pol with rivals. I expect that the thread title is literally correct, and will continue to do so until somebody actually lays it on the line
              Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Arrian View Post
                2. Remember, if you suggest that there is a powerful pro-Israeli (pro-Likudite, more like) lobby in the US that influences things like political nominations, you sir are just like David Duke!
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                • #9
                  If there is a tape of it then present it as evidence and put her on trial.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #10
                    I don't care for Reyes, but I'm so glad Pelosi blocked her from chairing Intelligence.

                    On the up side, we might get some reform in both warrentless wiretapping and Israel policy out of this.
                    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                    -Bokonon

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                      This conversation doesn't exist.


                      People actually say that? I thought it was just a bad movie cliche.
                      No, the bad movie cliche is "This conversation never happened."

                      She wants to head the Intelligence Committe, and she couldn't even get that right?
                      "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                      • #12
                        I'd be delighted to see Harman go. She didn't do herself any favors in her NPR inverview either, IMO.

                        Although I think the speculation of some that by having the NY Times story spiked it cost Kerry the election is a bit of a stretch.
                        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                        • #13
                          The revelation that the President was illegally spying on Americans very likely would have made a difference.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
                            The revelation that the President was illegally spying on Americans very likely would have made a difference.
                            Not in 2004, I'd wager. I think you're giving too much credit to the voters. We were still on the tail end of the post-9/11 terrah hysteria. After all, the Patriot Act was accepted by the American people as a-ok at that point. And I seem to recall there was already widespread speculation that they were illegally spying on people. Didn't matter so much since they were fighting terrah, so opinion went.
                            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                            • #15
                              There's two deals here. The first between Harman and Israeli intelligence. The second between Harman and Gonzalez.

                              I'd like to see a copy of the transcript of the tape. As I read the OP, it says Harman offered to help, "if you think it will make a difference." That's okay; she may have thought such actions correct. The article then says, "In exchange for Harman’s help, the sources said, the suspected Israeli agent pledged to help..." That does not appear to be part of Harman's original offer to help, which was only conditioned upon "if you think it will make a difference." It's the author of the article who appears to believe that the Israeli's pledge was "[i]n exchange for Harman's help..." He may have been offering, after the deal was already stuck -- to aid her appoinment. If so, that's not a quid pro quo. But the confusing and somewhat contradictory language in the article is why I want to see the transcript.

                              The second deal is more troubling. If Gonzalez obtained Harman's vote by intervening in and dropping a criminal investigation of Harman, that sounds an awful lot like blackmail. And to have high-ranking members of the Executive Branch blackmailing members of the Leglislative Branch in order to influence legislation is not a good thing.

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