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    Next Choler, Please

    By Dana Milbank
    Sunday, April 19, 2009

    Dear Reader:

    I wish to apologize to you for my behavior last week.

    On Tuesday, I learned that I am a right-wing hack. I am not a journalist. I am typical of the right wing. I am why newspapers are going broke. I write garbage. I am angry with Barack Obama. I misquote Obama. I am bitter. I am a certified idiot. I am lame. I am a Republican flack.

    On Thursday, I realized that I am a media pimp with my lips on Obama's butt. I am a bleeding-heart liberal who wants nothing more than for the right to fall on its face. I am part of the ObamaMedia. I am pimping for the left. I am carrying water for Obama. Lord, am I an idiot.

    I discovered all this from the helpful feedback provided to me in the "reader comments" section at the end of my past four columns on washingtonpost.com. I undertook this exercise on the advice of former washingtonpost.com editor Doug Feaver, who wrote on these pages recently that journalists need to take the comments seriously ["Listening to the Dot-Comments," op-ed, April 9]. Further, he added in his blog, "those who don't are making a mistake."

    Now, I may be a pimp and an idiot -- but I did not want to make a mistake. So I reviewed all 1,800 comments posted on my columns over the course of a week. As a sociological experiment, it was fascinating.

    The comments are naturally an unscientific indicator, but the impression I got is consistent with what I've heard from colleagues: The vitriol of last year's presidential campaign has outlasted the election. For the right, this isn't terribly surprising; their guys lost the White House in 2008 and control of both chambers of Congress in 2006, so lashing out in frustration is to be expected. The left, however, is more difficult to explain. It made sense for them to be angry when George W. Bush was in the White House. But now, even under Obama, the anger on the left is, if anything, more personal and vitriolic than on the right.

    A reader in an online chat brought this to my attention a couple of months ago, noting the animosity in the comments following a column. "Did you torture their cats and grandmothers? Most of the truly unhinged comments appear to come from Democrats, who apparently think you're Cindy McCain in reverse drag."

    I replied that, to keep my blood pressure under control, I don't read the comments, and that I did, in fact, torture their cats.

    Well, last week I read the comments. On April 10, I wrote a column about an Obama appearance urging Americans to refinance their mortgages -- a fairly gentle piece pointing out that the president sounded like a LendingTree.com pitchman. The comments compared me to Bernard Goldberg and Glenn Beck. One complained that "I gave Bush and the Republicans a pass."

    Actually, a National Review column called me "the most anti-Bush reporter" in the White House press corps, but never mind that. "Uh oh, Milbank," wrote commenter "farfalle44." "Now the Obamabots have labeled you an Obama hater -- watch out!"

    For Thursday's column, I criticized the "tea party" outside the White House. Conservatives left hundreds of indignant comments -- I was an Obama "lap dog" and "licking Obama's shoes" -- but that didn't buy me credibility with the left. "You do a real good job of attracting all the ill-informed, mathematically challenged, left-wing haters," said one reader. "I bet ya mom's really proud!"

    So why is the left so angry? I don't know (I'm an idiot), so I put the question to the readers in my weekly online chat on Friday.

    A reader from Rockville described it as a "sore winner" phenomenon. "People get used to being angry and when things change, they don't. So they find stuff to be mad about." Another said that some on the left "feel obligated to stay in the fight" because of the harsh treatment of Obama by the right.

    But many focused on a frustration on the left caused by Obama's centrism -- his opposition to prosecuting those involved with torture, for example. "I am angry because the whole Republican party has not been rounded up and thrown into a black site," one wrote. A reader in Evanston, Ill., took a similar view, that true believers on the left don't want "b.s. rhetoric about looking forward." Okay, but why wouldn't this be directed at Obama? Readers explained that some of it is. But, "if we yell obscenities at Obama," replied a reader in Dunnellon, Fla., "we get a visit from the Secret Service. Yelling them at you is worry-free."

    So the angry left should thank me: I'm taking one for the team.

    Read more from Dana Milbank




    Does Milbank nail the reason for all the continuing vitriol, or is it something else?
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

  • #2
    Right wing hack. Pull a few comments from the lunatic fringe and say that they are all anger filled nuts. That anyone would take this article seriously is what's really funny.
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

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    • #3
      Right wing hack.


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      • #4
        Calling TMM a right wing hack is funny?
        “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
        "Capitalism ho!"

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        • #5
          I thought you were calling Dana Milbank a right-wing hack; all TMM did was quote a Milbank column. And calling Milbank a right-wing hack is definitely funny.
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          • #6
            Eh?
            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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            • #7
              Did you Wake Up Canadian?
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #8
                For those who don't know:



                Dana T. Milbank (born 27 April 1968) is an American political reporter and columnist for The Washington Post. He is a graduate of Yale University, where he was a member of Trumbull College, the Progressive Party of the Yale Political Union and the secret society Skull and Bones.


                After Bush won the 2000 election, Karl Rove asked the Washington Post not to assign Milbank to cover White House news.[4] In 2001, a pool report penned by Milbank which covered a Bush visit to the US Capitol generated controversy within conservative circles.[5] According to Milbank, the nickname given to him by the president is "not printable in a family publication."[6]
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #9
                  Oh, look, an "angry left" article.

                  Anger from the Left @ Obama is due to his failing to be a Leftist. I mostly like that in him, though I definitely disagree with the "move along, nothing to see here!" approach to the torture issue.

                  Leftist anger directed at the media is likely springing from the same well: the media is not leftist. It's largely Corporate and therefore Centrist. The reporters themselves are overwhelmingly liberal, but what's actually printed really isn't (and besides, "Leftist" in this sense is well Left of Liberal).

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #10
                    Milbank misses the point entirely -- Right or Left, those who frequent the "comments" sections of news stories and opinion pieces not only have an axe to grind, they're drooling idiots with no reading comprehension skills and have an axe to grind. Nothing makes me lose faith in humanity quicker than reading comments on CNN.com. (Well, I guess ESPN.com is worse, but that's just sports, what do you expect?)
                    The undeserving maintain power by promoting hysteria.

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                    • #11
                      The comments section is pretty depressing.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #12
                        I'd assume that more left wingers read WaPo than right wingers, so vitriol would probably skew accordingly.

                        In other news, Milbank just discovered the intertubes.
                        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                        -Bokonon

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                        • #13
                          The article also fails to note that right-wing anger didn't abate during the years of GOP domination. The United States has polarized deeply along perceived ideological lines.

                          It should also be kept in mind that without pressure from the left, the Democrats always lean right. During the Clinton years, the liberals were so happy just to have a Democratic president that they didn't dare rock the boat. With this president, they were told to hope for change, and they aren't seeing it.

                          One communist I know says that the most important political fault line in the United States right now is between the expectations of the Democratic Party base and the reality of the Democratic Party leadership. You can be sure we're going to do everything we can to exploit it and widen that gap.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • #14
                            You won't be able to exploit it. But maybe, just maybe, a more mainstream group (Greens, or perhaps something entirely new) will.

                            It would require a lot more people paying attention, though.

                            -Arrian
                            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
                              One communist I know says that the most important political fault line in the United States right now is between the expectations of the Democratic Party base and the reality of the Democratic Party leadership. You can be sure we're going to do everything we can to exploit it and widen that gap.

                              You're never going to be able to exploit that fault line until the GOP becomes so completely irrelevant that rank-and-file Dems feel they can revolt against their own party without risking a Republican return to power. So if that's really what you want, you should stop conflating the two parties and work to destroy the GOP by any means necessary.

                              And Arrian's right; if the Dems fracture, it's the Greens who stand to benefit, not your folks. But don't let that distract you from the mission...
                              "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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