En Garde!

[SlowwHand]

It also had no goal, no way of winning. So you kept playing until you got bored.

Kind of like a discussion with MOBIUS?

[MOBIUS]

Wow, you're like that zombie in 'Day of the Dead' - you actually have a capacity to learn and improve...

[Theben]

By default the Welsh are smarter than Texans just from the simple fact that we are not American.

Americans are genetically smarter than Welsh. Our ancestors had to sail across a vast ocean, survive in a new land, and fend off attacks from natives and foreign powers. All you guys had to do was make sure you weren't so pissed you could still stumble out of the London area in the general direction of the setting sun.

[Zkribbler]

The Welch, however, were instrumental in the building of Stonehenge.

[MOBIUS]

Americans are genetically smarter than Welsh. Our ancestors had to sail across a vast ocean, survive in a new land, and fend off attacks from natives and foreign powers. All you guys had to do was make sure you weren't so pissed you could still stumble out of the London area in the general direction of the setting sun.

Is this where I have to trot out my evidence thread that America as an independent nation was actually founded by the Welsh - not to mention being named after a Welshman...

It's just a crying shame that they lost their way somewhat in the intervening centuries...

[Zkribbler]

Is this where I have to trot out my evidence thread that America as an independent nation was actually founded by the Welsh -

Yes, great Welshmen...like Tom Jones:

[MOBIUS]

He is great, isn't he...

The USA: Moral of the story - don't piss off the Welsh!

Replying to a post on another thread got me thinking...

Did the United States come about as a proxy struggle between the Welsh and the English...?

Just think for a minute about these facts...

Samuel Adams AKA the "Patriarch of Liberty" and "Father of the American Revolution", basically instigated the protests against the Stamp Act, and was behind the Boston Tea Party.

The American Constitution is based on the philosophies of Richard Price.

Five of the first six Presidents of the USA (and the only Confederate President) were Welshmen...

John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
John Quincy Adams

Not to mention the All Welsh Civil War between Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis...

So, as far as I can tell, if we couldn't regain independence in England's own backyard - why not do it overseas in her colonies...?

What I want to know is where it all went wrong after such a great start...?

Maybe I should do a 'How Wales Conquered the World' thread - did I mention that Mount Everest, the highest mountain in the world is named after a Welshman?

[Zkribbler]

...and Richard Burton:

[Theben]

Is this where I have to trot out my made up evidence blah

I read it the 1st time and found it unconvincing. Several other posters shot down your "evidence". Try drinking more.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, I was just about to say the evidence that was shot down, but Theben beat me to it.

[MOBIUS]

'Shot down' by arguments that were more unconvincing that my original arguments - mainly since when is anything worthwhile named after a person's Christian name...!?

Not to mention the fact that a number of posters also supported my argument by lending some convincing corroborating evidence.

Or for that matter people completely ignoring the efforts of people like Samuel Adams to get your country out from under the yolk of English oppression in the first place.

So to recap, America is: named after a Welshman; was agitated to independence by Welshmen; has a constitution written by a Welshman; began with a dynasty of Welsh Presidents; and interestingly had a civil war fought between two Welsh Presidents...

[Theben]

So to recap, I can only wish to be as much of a liar as BK, but here's my pathetic attempt to keep up pace. Please accept what I say as true because we Welsh have no claim to fame otherwise except as the #1 pissing target of the English.

Fixed.

[MOBIUS]

That is so pathetic, even a two year old could do better!

[Theben]

Apparently the Welsh have high regard for the intellect of a 2 year old. Why am I not surprised?

[Krill]

En Garde.