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  • A Difficult Friendship with Obama: A Wall Separates Merkel and the Land of Her Dreams

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel is traveling around the United States this week. She loves the country, but she has a few problems with its president, Barack Obama. Her political style is vastly different from that of the US president, but she also has something else to contend with: Washington's disregard for and attempts to dominate Europeans.

    When Merkel is no longer Germany's chancellor, she will fly to America. She will land in California, rent a car, drive to the beach and gaze out at the Pacific Ocean. That, at least, was her plan in 1990, shortly after the fall of the Berlin Wall, and she still clings to that vision: America, the Pacific and a long road trip across the entire country.

    Merkel is in the United States this week, as chancellor, and she will hardly be in a position to satisfy her wanderlust. But at least she'll see the Pacific, when she visits Los Angeles and San Francisco after spending time in Washington.

    She is traveling to a country whose stunningly beautiful aspects hold an almost childlike fascination for Merkel, but whose political realities represent a cause for concern. During her visit, she will encounter representatives of opposing camps in the country's deeply divided political landscape. In Los Angeles and San Francisco, Merkel will meet with protagonists of the American dream, including California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, filmmakers at Warner Brothers and some of the Silicon Valley's best and brightest.

    But first she'll be in Washington, where Obama runs the show. She will see him at a nuclear summit attended by 40 other heads of state. The two years in which Merkel has interacted with Obama have been filled with tension, even if there has never been an open quarrel between the two leaders. He is precisely the president she didn't want to see in office, because he is the antithesis of her. This sentiment has been palpable from the very beginning, and it hasn't gone away.



    Angela Merkel is traveling across America this week. It's a country she loves, but the German chancellor is still having trouble connecting with Barack Obama. Her political style couldn't be any more different from that of the US president. She's fighting to prevent the US from disregarding or dominating the Europeans.
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    • Obama Slanders, Abandons Israel

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      • Oh, sweet irony...

        According to tomorrow's New Statesman, Barack Obama was unimpressed by his encounter with David Cameron earlier this year and commented: "What a lightweight!"

        According to James Macintyre's report, Cameron's attempt to stress his pro-American and Eurosceptic credentials did not meet with Obama's approval. According to Macintyre's diplomatic sources, the Democratic candidate was "distinctly unimpressed" and labelled Cameron a lightweight.



        Paul Owen: According to tomorrow's New Statesman, Barack Obama was unimpressed by his encounter with the Tory leader earlier this year and said: 'Cameron is a lightweight'
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        • During the interview Wednesday, when confronted with the anxiety that some Israelis feel toward him, Obama said that "some of it may just be the fact that my middle name is Hussein, and that creates suspicion."
          Nothing like accusing your allies of racism

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          • Lots of Americans made a big deal out of his middle name, so it's plausible.

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            • Regardless of plausibility, the stupidity of this comment is glaring. If I didn't know better I would have attributed this to Biden. A true hopenchange policy moment.
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              • So what if we offend Israel? If Israel decided it didn't want to be a US ally anymore I wouldn't care too much.

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                • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                  So what if we offend Israel? If Israel decided it didn't want to be a US ally anymore I wouldn't care too much.
                  you'll care when the iranians get nukes and blow up new york harbor.

                  Israel's probably going to attack them sooner or later, and they wouldn't be able to pull it off without our (albeit indirect) help.

                  Furthermore, if you assert that Israelis don't like you because of racism after you:
                  a. declare you won't retaliate if Jerusalem is nuked (A CHANGE in policy from before, note)
                  b. declare they shouldn't be allowed to build in their capital city
                  you're just being dumb.
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                  • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    you'll care when the iranians get nukes and blow up new york harbor.


                    fearmongering

                    Furthermore, if you assert that Israelis don't like you because of racism after you:
                    a. declare you won't retaliate if Jerusalem is nuked (A CHANGE in policy from before, note)
                    b. declare they shouldn't be allowed to build in their capital city
                    you're just being dumb.
                    Do you mean, declare they should stop building new settlements? Oh poor Israel being asked to compromise on something.

                    edit: however, point taken, Obama is probably wrong

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                    • In their capital city? Are you crazy?

                      Jerusalem isn't a ****ing settlement, you dumbass.
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                      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        In their capital city? Are you crazy?

                        Jerusalem isn't a ****ing settlement, you dumbass.
                        There aren't settlements in East Jerusalem?

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                        • It's a CITY. And if you want to get technical, it was a Jewish neighborhood. It's the capitol of Israel. It is not under any jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority although they claim it ought to be theirs but the Israelis took it after the Palestinians starting shelling New Jerusalem from inside the walled city. They can build there if they want to and the *****ing and moaning by palestinians was entirely baseless and dumb.
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                          • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
                            Regardless of plausibility, the stupidity of this comment is glaring. If I didn't know better I would have attributed this to Biden. A true hopenchange policy moment.
                            I know several educated American Jewish Democrats who voted for McCain because they thought Obama was a Muslim.

                            That being said, pointing that out was still not smart for Obama to do.
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                            • Yeah but it's definitely not a mainstream view among Jews, Ozzy.
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                              • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                It's a CITY. And if you want to get technical, it was a Jewish neighborhood. It's the capitol of Israel. It is not under any jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority although they claim it ought to be theirs but the Israelis took it after the Palestinians starting shelling New Jerusalem from inside the walled city. They can build there if they want to and the *****ing and moaning by palestinians was entirely baseless and dumb.
                                That's entirely one sided. I don't see how encouraging jewish settlement of the area while gradually removing the right of arabs to live there is going to help bring peace.

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