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  • #16
    It includes somewhere in the ballpark of 2/3 of his campaign proposal for health care (Congress has to come up with the rest). That portion is all funded by tax increases and spending cuts, according to the budget.
    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
    -Bokonon

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DanS View Post
      And only slightly smaller deficits for years to come.

      Commence indigestion. We're going to be paying this off for generations.

      God, we need some bankers to hang.
      Aww, isn't that cute. The Republican suddenly cares about spending.

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DanS View Post
        And only slightly smaller deficits for years to come.

        Commence indigestion. We're going to be paying this off for generations.
        Change we can believe in.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • #19
          The choices before the American taxpayer appear to be:

          a) spend trillions on foreign wars; or
          b) spend trillions on domestic projects

          Or elect Ron Paul, I suppose.

          -Arrian
          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Arrian View Post
            Aww, isn't that cute. The Republican suddenly cares about spending.
            If you had ever you know possibly read any of his posts Arrian, you might realize that he always disliked wasteful spending. Seriously, take off the damn blinders you have on.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #21
              How did he feel about the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts ($1.7 trillion total)?
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
              -Bokonon

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              • #22
                He hates all "wasteful" domestic spending. He spent almost none of his whining on the staggeringly wasteful cluster**** that was and is the Iraq adventure (which, in addition to money, has other costs).

                It's you, I think, who has blinders on.

                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #23
                  Seriously... that condescending attitude really doesn't fit with Dan. Try again.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #24
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Arrian View Post
                      The Republican suddenly cares about spending.
                      When have I not cared about spending? Indeed, I'm all about reducing spending as a percentage of our economy long term. I care most about any immediate spending that puts us on the hook for long-term spending. We should be seeking to get rid of these long-term commitments.

                      Please keep your straw men out of this thread.
                      Last edited by DanS; February 26, 2009, 13:43.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Arrian View Post
                        The choices before the American taxpayer appear to be:

                        a) spend trillions on foreign wars; or
                        b) spend trillions on domestic projects

                        Or elect Ron Paul, I suppose.

                        -Arrian
                        Unbelievable!

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                        • #27
                          I don't recall any outrage from you about the pricetag (huge, still growing, and not entirely clear) on our Iraqi Adventure. Seriously, I don't. Did you create threads complaining about how much money we were wasting there, and how it was going to take us generations to pay off? I recall you buying into Rummy's rosy projections of the costs, which turned out to be laughably low. Whereas now you (correctly, IMO) question the projected deficit reductions.

                          -Arrian
                          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                          • #28
                            Paul's got some things going for him, in my book. I'm glad he's around, even though I wasn't prepared to vote for him for Pres.

                            -Arrian
                            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                            • #29
                              Ron Paul, please.
                              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                              • #30
                                How much is a Million?
                                How much is a Billion?
                                How much is a Trillion?
                                What's the difference between a million, a billion, a trillion?

                                A million seconds is 12 days.
                                A billion seconds is 31 years.
                                A trillion seconds is 31,688 years.

                                A million minutes ago was – 1 year, 329 days, 10 hours and 40 minutes ago.
                                A billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ.

                                A million hours ago was in 1885.
                                A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.

                                A million dollars ago was five (5) seconds ago at the U.S. Treasury.
                                A billion dollars ago was late yesterday afternoon at the U.S. Treasury.

                                A trillion dollars is so large a number that only politicians
                                can use the term in conversation... probably because they
                                seldom think about what they are really saying. I've read that
                                mathematicians do not even use the term trillion!
                                Here is some perspective on TRILLION:

                                Trillion = 1,000,000,000,000.
                                The country has not existed for a trillion seconds.
                                Western civilization has not been around a trillion seconds.
                                One trillion seconds ago – 31,688 years – Neanderthals stalked the plains of Europe.

                                Million: 1,000,000
                                Billion: 1,000,000,000
                                Trillion: 1,000,000,000,000
                                Quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
                                Sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
                                Nonillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
                                Centillion: 1 followed by 303 zeros
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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