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    VILSECK, Germany – A U.S. soldier confessed to military investigators that he shot a bound and blindfolded Iraqi prisoner point-blank in the back of the head, according to a video played at his murder trial Thursday

    Sgt. Michael Leahy, 28, told the Germany-based investigators that after shooting the first prisoner, he turned his 9mm pistol on another captive.

    "The detainee I shot fell back on me," he said in the videotape of the January 2008 interrogation played at his trial in the Army's Rose Barracks' courtroom. "I turned to the right and saw the other detainee flinch, and turn his head after he heard the shot. My weapon was pointed toward him, my weapon was anywhere from a foot to a couple of inches away. I hit him in the side of the head, the face, anywhere from the ear forward."

    But the shot didn't kill the second man, so Master Sgt. John Hatley, 40, finished him off with a shot to the chest, Leahy said.

    "I'm ashamed of what I've done," he said in the video, occasionally wiping tears from his eyes and holding his face in his hands. "I don't consider myself a murderer. I made a huge mistake. I'll accept the consequences."

    Leahy has pleaded not guilty to charges of premeditated murder, conspiracy to commit premeditated murder and obstruction of justice in the deaths of a total of four Iraqi prisoners, who were dumped in a Baghdad canal in 2007 after they were killed.

    Leahy is also being tried for the alleged murder of another Iraqi who was shot while in his care as a medic in January of 2007.

    The Illinois man faces a possible life in prison and dishonorable discharge if convicted.

    Six soldiers, including Leahy are accused of involvement in the slaying of the four prisoners sometime between March 10 and April 16, 2007. All were with the 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division in Iraq, which is now part of the Germany-based 172nd Infantry Brigade.

    Leahy, Hatley and Sgt. 1st Class Joseph Mayo, 27, are accused of pulling the trigger.

    According to testimony at the court-martial, which began Tuesday, at least four Iraqis were taken into custody in spring 2007 after a shootout with a patrol that included five other accused soldiers.

    The prisoners were taken to the U.S. unit's operating base in Baghdad for questioning and processing though there wasn't enough evidence to hold them for attacking the unit. Later that night patrol members took the Iraqis to a remote area and shot them in retribution for the attacks against the unit, according to testimony.

    Three soldiers are scheduled for later courts-martial. Sgt. Charles Quigley, 28, of Providence, Rhode Island, faces one charge of conspiracy to commit premeditated murder. Mayo and Hatley are charged with premeditated murder, conspiracy to commit premeditated murder, and obstruction of justice.

    Two more soldiers — Spc. Steven Ribordy, 25, of Salina, Kansas, and Spc. Belmor Ramos, 23, of Clearfield, Utah — pleaded guilty last year to conspiracy to commit premeditated murder.
    U.S. Soldier Confesses to Murder
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  • #2
    And what's your point?

    Give a 100 thousand people guns and you're going to have a few wack jobs. Law of probability.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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    • #3
      "I'm ashamed of what I've done," he said in the video, occasionally wiping tears from his eyes and holding his face in his hands. "I don't consider myself a murderer. I made a huge mistake. I'll accept the consequences."
      How the hell does he reason it was not murder? No acceptance of responsibility, hang the ****er as is proper for his profession.
      "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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      • #4
        Well, in my book, not only is he a murderer, but also a traitor, for such behaviour certainly does not serve his country. What i would do? Exspell him from the army of course, and then turn him over to the iraqi´s, since the crime was commited against one of theirs on their soil. Let them judge over him. Him of whoever is at the top of the chain that commanded this.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rah View Post
          And what's your point?

          Give a 100 thousand people guns and you're going to have a few wack jobs. Law of probability.
          No kidding. I've personally met at least one neo-nazi career criminal suffering from permanent meth-induced psychosis who wound up in Iraq, thanks in part to his sargeant getting cushy deals out of the D.A.'s office. I don't even want to think about how many times he's... "bent the rules" over there by now.
          Last edited by Darius871; February 19, 2009, 11:17.
          Unbelievable!

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          • #6
            Its quite obvious that these guys were not ordered to do this. Do you have anything that says otherwise?
            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rah View Post
              And what's your point?

              Give a 100 thousand people guns and you're going to have a few wack jobs. Law of probability.
              So acts of injustice like this should never be reported just because we already know that these things happen?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
                How the hell does he reason it was not murder? No acceptance of responsibility, hang the ****er as is proper for his profession.
                Them's strong words!
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                • #9
                  nvm
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                  • #10
                    Where are the soldiers mentioned in the thread title? I only see one so far.
                    Here's some arithmetic for you, DD.

                    Sgt. Michael Leahy + Master Sgt. John Hatley + Sgt. 1st Class Joseph Mayo = three soldiers
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                    • #11
                      Actually, the grand total of the accused is six. In my link, I have the word "soldier" singular for the one who has already confessed.
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                      • #12
                        Them's strong words!
                        It should be done in front of his regiment at parade formation as an example. I guarantee anyone who witnesses it would think twice if they started getting the same idea.
                        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
                          Its quite obvious that these guys were not ordered to do this. Do you have anything that says otherwise?
                          No, i dont. Just a precaution. I thought about the ´wall-snipers´ here, who got sentenced to jail after the unification, despite the fact, that they only had the choice to shoot or be shot (or at least be dealt with very severly).

                          It´s reasons like these, why i didnt go to the army for service (did civil service instead): What do you do, when you are ordered to do something, you know is wrong, but if you dont do it, you get punished very badly? Like your sarge says: ´Shoot him! It´s an order! Insubordination during war-times is a war-crime, private!!!´... are you gonna tell him about the geneve conventions and try to have a little debate with him over it, or... well... do as being told, if he just screams at you loud enough the appropriate threats (and can count on your fellow-soldiers to be on his side as witnesses)? This is not a question, you can answer without having been there, i think. I prefer to avoid any situation where i´d have to.

                          On the suggested punishment: Well, to have him displayed is not the worst idea. But i reject the death-penalty. I do like the medievel institution of the ...uhem... ´stakes´ you call them? You know, the criminal gets on display in a public place, where people can taunt and humiliate him and throw rotten fruits at him and what not (anything short of severe physical attacks - *****-slaping is okay, bone-breaking is not - you get the idea). I´d still put that stake in the neighboorhood of the victims (iraq) though. Of course the guy needs to be guarded - we dont want lynching - now, that would be barbarism...
                          Last edited by Unimatrix11; February 19, 2009, 11:48.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
                            It should be done in front of his regiment at parade formation as an example. I guarantee anyone who witnesses it would think twice if they started getting the same idea.



                            What do make of the other five soldiers?
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                            • #15
                              It´s reasons like these, why i didnt go to the army for service (did civil service instead): What do you do, when you are ordered to do something, you know is wrong, but if you dont do it, you get punished very badly?
                              If you don't have the moral fortitude to follow superior orders, the UCMJ, then you are unfit to serve anyway.

                              What do make of the other five soldiers?
                              I don't know what their culpability is. I would take what this guy says with a grain of salt until we see what his plea bargain was.

                              If you give people (and they accept) overreaching power and the ability to exercise it, that comes with a more serious responsibility concerning what you do with it. If they are guilty hang them too.
                              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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