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  • The bottom is in sight

    at least the first realistic assessments of what will be required are coming out... which means that someone at the top is publicly starting to claim on how much is left to do... and that can only be good.



    And while taxpayers will surely recover some of that sum eventually, more money is likely to be needed in order for the bank rescue to work.

    "The amount of working capital you'd expect the government to take into this would be around $3 trillion to $4 trillion," said Simon Johnson, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and author of its Baseline Scenario financial crisis blog.

    Johnson, who until last year was the chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, said that banks will need more rounds of capital from the government because their cushion against losses is too thin. He also said that there is a need to get rid of some of the toxic assets weighing on financial institutions before they can recover.

    With that in mind, he thinks that the net cost to U.S. taxpayers for a broadened bailout would be about $1 trillion to $2 trillion, or between 5% and 10% of U.S. gross domestic product. He said this figure is "in line with the experience" of other nations that have tried massive banking system restructuring.

    Johnson isn't the first to estimate that the final cost of a bank bailout will be well north of $1 trillion. FBR Capital analyst Paul Miller said in November that just the top eight U.S. financial institutions alone needed at least $1 trillion in new common equity.
    Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
    GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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    Dunno about the economics, but in the good old days people responsible for such a royal ****up like the one we experience now would have paid the ultimate price. Learn from Iran, bring back public executions
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    • #3
      I am sure we would all be executed
      Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
      GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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      • #4
        Blah

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        • #5
          That's overly optimistic, with a second wave of foreclosures coming. It's far from clear the bottom is in sight.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
            The bottom is in sight
            ...If you have the Keck Telescope, or you are an Illuminated one like me.
            Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
            Japher: "crap, did I just post in this thread?"
            "Bloody hell, Lefty.....number one in my list of persons I have no intention of annoying, ever." Bugs ****ing Bunny
            From a 6th grader who readily adpated to internet culture: "Pay attention now, because your opinions suck"

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            • #7
              Because you can see the bottom, that does not tell you how low we will have to go or how long it will take to get there. Time at depth matters more than either one separately.
              No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
              "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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              • #8
                At some point, the people responsible for this should be put up against a wall and shot.

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                • #9
                  As has been stated, that is pretty much every citizen of the Western world.
                  "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                  • #10
                    Nonsense.

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                    • #11
                      I was hoping this was an offshoot of the Babes thread.

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                      • #12
                        This image from the babe thread also jumped into my mind.

                        And indeed there will be time To wonder, "Do I dare?" and, "Do I dare?". t s eliot

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola View Post
                          ...If you have the Keck Telescope, or you are an Illuminated one like me.
                          How are you holding up in all this?
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