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  • #46
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
    Very well put. By allowing an exemption in the law for self-produced child porn, you open up unintended consequences. Believe me, people would use that loophole.

    Imran is right, as usual. If there were such an exemption, you can bet your bottom dollar that pornmasters would make their exempt child-models send out the porn.

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    • #47
      Which is why there is, built-in, to the system, prosecutorial discretion (and why jury nullification is an option). Though sometimes things slip through, unfortunately.
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      • #48
        Many opinions here, just curious, how many here that are parents or grandparents think its acceptable for this to happen (the pics being taken and shared, NOT the minors being charged/prosecuted)?

        I will weigh in and say itys not acceptable for minors, they are minors and therefore do not fully understand the implications.

        By the way, when it comes out, you have to see Liam Neeson in Taken

        As a parent it would tear your heart out.

        This situation is not that far removed from the dangers to young girls who do such things, nor the boys for that matter.

        Gramps
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
          Already is and these kids are being charged with trading as well (the "dissemination" part).
          i would define trading as disseminating in exchange for personal gain.

          if they sent nudie pics to a guy they are hot over, then it is stupid, but shouldn't be illegal.

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          • #50
            Gramps, I certainly don't think it is a good idea or should be acceptable for 13 y/o kids to send out nude pics. I also don't think 13 y/o kids are old enough to engage in sexual relations.

            But making their mistakes and poor choices a criminal offense is a major error that only traumatizes them more.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Zkribbler View Post
              Imran is right, as usual. If there were such an exemption, you can bet your bottom dollar that pornmasters would make their exempt child-models send out the porn.
              If there was any suspicion that this is what's going on, then i'd be all for an inquiry and indictments.

              But it is crystal clear that there is no such motive here.

              Which is why the police/prosecution should have gotten off of this case, as soon as the investigation was done.

              These kids need to talk to their parents, maybe a therapist. NOT a warden.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Sirotnikov View Post
                Gramps, I certainly don't think it is a good idea or should be acceptable for 13 y/o kids to send out nude pics. I also don't think 13 y/o kids are old enough to engage in sexual relations.

                But making their mistakes and poor choices a criminal offense is a major error that only traumatizes them more.
                Siro, what would be an acceptable punishment?

                I dont buy that they didnt know the consequences completely, heck, they know alot, but while not nailing them to the cross for this, a definitive punishment should be applied my friend, any suggestions?

                Thanks
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                • #53
                  I went back and re-read the OP. It doesn't say the kids were charged with a crime. Rather, the authorities are petitioning the juvenile court. This sounds like a process similar to what we have in California, where youths are not charged with crimes. Rather, if the court finds they did the illegal act, the youth is made a ward of the court, so corrective action may be taken. Later, when the kid attains his/her majority, the juvenile records is sealed.

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                  • #54
                    Ok, let's at least hope that the judge won't sentence them "to be taken from this place and brought round to his place" like the model in that Monty Python sketch.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Grandpa Troll View Post
                      Many opinions here, just curious, how many here that are parents or grandparents think its acceptable for this to happen (the pics being taken and shared, NOT the minors being charged/prosecuted)?
                      Parents and grandparents can't look at the issue objectively. They're too emotional to make a rational decision, and should leave it to disinterested parties.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
                        Parents and grandparents can't look at the issue objectively. They're too emotional to make a rational decision, and should leave it to disinterested parties.
                        Just like Washington bureaucrats should decide whether women should be allowed to abort. They're bound to be more rational about it.
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                        • #57
                          The government in Washington has made that decision.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
                            Parents and grandparents can't look at the issue objectively. They're too emotional to make a rational decision, and should leave it to disinterested parties.
                            Like people who are interested in exploitation of minors

                            Or people who dont know the ramifications of their actions, as in minors


                            Just sharing, when i said parents and grandparents I was not necessarily meaning that the kids in questioons were relatives but that parents know what can and will happen and grandparents know how this will rollover into another generation, as in the future fallout of behavior and actions left unchecked


                            GT
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                              The government in Washington has made that decision.
                              I'm trying to point out ideological inconsistencies for ****s n'giggles here. Don't troll-block.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                                Very well put. By allowing an exemption in the law for self-produced child porn, you open up unintended consequences. Believe me, people would use that loophole.
                                Except that in this case, the people receiving the "pornography" were OTHER MINORS. I.e. most likely guys they were dating/sleeping with.
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