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    You'll notice it's the democrats who are warning the new messiah.

    Key Dem says Obama needs to be ‘careful’; critics warns about Gitmo order

    msnbc.com news services
    updated 10:09 a.m. CT, Fri., Jan. 23, 2009
    CAIRO, Egypt - A Saudi man released from Guantanamo Bay after spending nearly six years inside the U.S. prison camp is now the No. 2 of Yemen's al-Qaida branch, according to a purported Internet statement from the terror network.

    The announcement, made this week on a Web site commonly used by militants, came as President Barack Obama ordered the detention facility closed within a year. Many of the remaining detainees are from Yemen, which has long posed a vexing terrorism problem for the United States.

    In response to the report, a key Democratic lawmaker said Obama needs to "proceed extremely carefully" in closing Guantanamo, but that there was no justification for "disappearing people" in a place outside the reach of U.S. law.

    The terror group's Yemen branch — known as "al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula" — said the man, identified as Said Ali al-Shihri, returned to his home in Saudi Arabia after his release from Guantanamo about a year ago and from there went to Yemen, which is Osama bin Laden's ancestral home.

    The Internet statement could not immediately be verified, and Yemen and Saudi Arabian authorities would not immediately comment on it. In a report Friday in The New York Times, a U.S. counterterrorism official said al-Shihri was a former detainee. "They're one and the same guy," the official was quoted as saying.

    The Web posting said al-Shihri was the group's second-in-command in Yemen, and his prisoner number at Guantanamo was 372. "He managed to leave the land of the two shrines (Saudi Arabia) and join his brothers in al-Qaida," the statement said.

    Documents released by the U.S. Defense Department show that al-Shihri was released from the facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba in November 2007 and transferred to his homeland. The documents confirmed his prisoner number was 372.

    Saudi Arabian authorities wouldn't immediately comment on the statement. A Yemeni counterterrorism official would only say that Saudi Arabia had asked Yemen to turn over a number of wanted Saudi suspects who fled the kingdom last year for Yemen, and a man with the same name was among those wanted. The official spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak to the press and would not provide more details.

    Key Dem urges caution
    Rep. Jane Harman, D-California, who heads the House Homeland Security subcommittee on intelligence, said the reports about al-Shihri should not slow the Obama administration's determination to quickly close the prison.

    "What it tells me is that President Obama has to proceed extremely carefully. But there is really no justification and there was no justification for disappearing people in a place that was located offshore of America so it was outside the reach of U.S. law," she told CBS's "The Early Show."


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    But Rep. Pete Hoekstra, of Michigan, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, criticized the executive order Obama signed Thursday to close the facility as "very short on specifics."

    Interviewed on the same program, he said there are indications that as many as 10 percent of the men released from Guantanamo are "back on the battlefield. They are attacking American troops."

    On Thursday, Obama issued sweeping orders to rein in secretive U.S. counterterrorism policies and end harsh interrogations.

    “The message that we are sending the world is that the United States intends to prosecute the ongoing struggle against violence and terrorism,” the president said. “And we are going to do so vigilantly, and we are going to do so effectively, and we are going to do so in a manner that is consistent with our values and our ideals.”

    Obama’s three executive orders, coming on Day Two of his presidency, sought to show that the United States does not torture and abides by domestic and international laws governing the treatment of detainees.

    The Obama administration is looking at three military prisons — in Kansas, California and South Carolina — along with the civilian Supermax prison in Colorado as potential sites for the Guantanamo detainees.

    “I don’t know of any city that would be thrilled to have Khalid Sheik Mohammed or Abu Zubaydah living down the street,” Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., said of two high-level al-Qaida operatives who are being held at Guantanamo.

    In a related development, a federal judge decided to give the Obama administration time to weigh in on some of the legal cases brought by U.S.-held terror detainees.

    U.S. District Judge John Bates gave the new president and his Justice Department until February to tell him whether they want to change the government's position on the definition of "enemy combatant." Prisoners from U.S. detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan are challenging their detention as so-called enemy combatants in federal court.

    "The new presidential administration may wish to review the government's current position regarding the appropriate definition of 'enemy combatant' to be used in these and other habeas cases," Bates said Thursday.
    Full story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28800516/
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    Gitmo made more terrorists than we caught.
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    • #3
      Do you want to accept the wager yet? Increase it? Or is this just more running of the mouth? I'd say it's just you running your motor-mouth again.
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      • #4
        You'll notice it's the democrats who are warning the new messiah.


        You'll notice that it was G Dub who chose to release (as opposed to prosecute) this guy. Skirting procedure, and instead engaging in torture and arbitrary detention makes it harder to bring the real bad guys to justice.
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        • #5
          He was released while Bush was still President so Bush was soft on terror. Thankfully we have Obama now who will crush the terrorists beneath his steely, black hands.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
            Do you want to accept the wager yet? Increase it? Or is this just more running of the mouth? I'd say it's just you running your motor-mouth again.
            You're such a coward. You know full well that betting money on this forum isn't allowed, so you hide behind it pretending to be tough. Stick to making fun of typos and x-posts, that's your place.
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            • #7
              PM me, motor mouth.
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              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                Bah, the fact that you need to hide behind a bet shows that you have no argument. You're hoping some miracle will occur and you will use that to justify your nonsense. But it doesn't matter. It's still nonsense. You are a weak coward.
                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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                • #9
                  Why do mommy and daddy keep fighting?
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                  • #10
                    You'll understand when your older, son.
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                    "Capitalism ho!"

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                    • #11
                      No one thinks Obama is the messiah. If someone uses that term then you can automatically assume they're an idiot.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #12
                        I posted an article on this exact same topic in the Gautanamo thread.
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                        • #13
                          Are you saying that Sloww is gay?
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                          • #14
                            Hmm, he spent six years being sleep-deprived, waterboarded and humiliated in a foreign prison, and came out hating the country that ran it? Sounds awfully far-fetched to me.
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                            • #15
                              1. The guy was released (along with many others) by the Bush Adminstration, because they had **** all in evidence against him.

                              2. They released lots of guys. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them did go join up. Whether they were our enemies before we stuck them in Gitmo for years, tortured them, and then released them, or because our enemies because of said treatment is not clear to me.

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