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  • #16
    Originally posted by rah View Post
    YEah, I'm torn on this one. I agree that anything I do at work is public but what I do at home is personal. He's on duty 24/7. Is Obama not entitled to any personal time. It seems a bit harsh.
    Part of the price.
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    • #17
      The same could be said about exec branch staff and the loss of their lobbying ability.

      Sure, it's a personal limitation for them individually. But then again the POTUS loses his expectation of privacy, and on balance the welfare of the office and nation benefits. Likewise, I'd say if you sign up for a (decently paid) job as exec staff, don't be surprised if you have a couple of job options closed to you later when you leave.

      As Patroklos points out, the incoming ban is a little stickier. It's easier to see gov't inefficiency at work if specialists in a given field are twiddling their thumbs for two years.
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      • #18
        This is mostly optics. Like imposing the salary cap in the executive branch. Restoring America's confidence in gov't, yadda, yadda yadda. It might even be problematic in an environment where talented people aren't trying to get into government and the public wasn't so jaded, but that's not today.

        Much more substantive were the orders on public disclosure and executive privilege.
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        • #19
          These kind of measures is what most people are hoping for after 8 years of rampant infringements on reason and good governance. Let's hope these declarations herald more substantive measures in the near future.
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          • #20
            I like how everyone here is falling for this. Even the retarded Cambell Brown didn't fall for this.
            Just a couple of nights ago, we heaped praise on the new president for announcing what he called a new era of openness, where in his administration, transparency would rule the day.


            Perhaps all of you should get over it and realize that ever since Fiddy Cent took two to the chest and wrote that awful party song, black people too have been corrupted by original sin. M:AD

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            • #21
              Somehow I think that any aides that parachute out to unions or chosen non-profits (or lobby for said groups) will still, miraculously, manage to lobby the White House. And Rah is right about the ban discouraging qualified experts from joining the administration.
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              • #22
                They can still join, they just have to burn their wheels doing something unrelated for two years.
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                • #23
                  The outgoing ban (formers staffers can NEVER lobby the Obama administration) is really a brilliant and subtle loyalty enforcement measure, The whole federal bureaucracy is now keen to keep the positions they currently have rather then drop out to take high paying lobbying positions. This move will likely be good for the country but its is also good for Obama.
                  Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia View Post
                    They can still join, they just have to burn their wheels doing something unrelated for two years.
                    Apparently not according to Wiglaf's link.
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                    • #25
                      No wonder I didn't see it.
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                      • #26
                        They can still join, they just have to burn their wheels doing something unrelated for two years.
                        Which also means Obama pretty much has to promise people jobs two years in advance. Qualified people are not going to abandon careers on the hope that maybe they will get picked up in two years.

                        Actually, I see quite a few lawsuits on the horizon due to this.
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