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    I bet those IOUs would be useful right now...

    California's fiscal future lurched yet another step toward oblivion on Friday as state Controller John Chiang announced he could no longer make payments for services to disabled and blind people who need the money to pay for rent and food.

    Chiang said payments would most likely have to be stopped by Feb. 1.

    "Delaying these payments will hurt real families," Chiang said.

    About one million people would be affected by the non-payments, Chiang said.

    "People are going to be hungry at my house," said Shirley Magers, who receives a $900 monthly payment related to her disabilities. "(This is) not to mention the utilities. Personally I can't pay all the utilities right now."

    Education will be spared from the delayed payments, but California's money meltdown has been long in the making.

    "The last day the state had a positive cash balance was July 12, 2007 -- a year and a half ago," Chiang said.

    Since that time, California has been using internal borrowing to pay the bills. Barring a quick deal at the capitol, taxpayers will likely receive IOUs instead of tax refunds this spring.

    Lawmakers have about two weeks to strike a deal with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger or the cash crisis will expand to even more people.

    Thousands of construction projects around the state are shutting down because state bond money has dried up.

    "If it continues for a number of months into next year, it could be 200,000 jobs lost," said State Treasurer Bill Lockyer.

    The board that oversees those projects voted to free up funding on Friday while top legislative leaders joined Schwarzenegger for another round of budget talks.

    Schwarzenegger said he may host another meeting of top legislative leaders on Saturday.
    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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    Why should they be getting tax refunds if their government is bankrupt?

    JM
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    • #3
      Why should they be getting tax refunds if their government is bankrupt?

      JM
      Jon Miller-
      I AM.CANADIAN
      GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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      • #4
        A 7-minute double post, congrats!
        Unbelievable!

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        • #5
          Sounds like negotiating tactics to me.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DanS View Post
            Sounds like negotiating tactics to me.
            Who, CA or JM?
            Unbelievable!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DanS View Post
              Sounds like negotiating tactics to me.

              You suspect CA is playing hardball with the Feds for financial aid?
              Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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              • #8
                Well hell yes. Arnie is already on record for California being fiscally irresponsible.
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                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  But I thought everyone wanted to change the US Constitution so that Arnie could be president someday? Now you're telling me that he's an aweful governor who ran his state into the ground?
                  "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                  • #10
                    I didn't say the former, but I believe the 2nd part, Doc.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #11
                      I try not to be cold, hard or insensitive.

                      However, it bothers me when generations are born into accepting aid when the programs were meant to assist, not to sustain families.

                      Hard working families pay taxes (and aparently not enough) while others just keep getting aid.

                      A shame we couldnt find a way to parlay those who cant hold a job into ssome sort of labor force to assist the State of california, in this case, say as laborers for the highway department, janitors for state buildings in exchange for the aid they receive.
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                      • #12
                        I guess it depends on how disabled or blind they are.
                        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Grandpa Troll View Post
                          I try not to be cold, hard or insensitive.

                          However, it bothers me when generations are born into accepting aid when the programs were meant to assist, not to sustain families.

                          Hard working families pay taxes (and aparently not enough) while others just keep getting aid.

                          A shame we couldnt find a way to parlay those who cant hold a job into ssome sort of labor force to assist the State of california, in this case, say as laborers for the highway department, janitors for state buildings in exchange for the aid they receive.

                          I'd say there's a moral difference between someone living on disability with "a bum knee" and someone on disability with Muscular Dystrophy, for example. I don't think the second one(at least one in the advance stages) is going to be very useful out there on a highway crew.
                          Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lonestar View Post
                            I'd say there's a moral difference between someone living on disability with "a bum knee" and someone on disability with Muscular Dystrophy, for example. I don't think the second one(at least one in the advance stages) is going to be very useful out there on a highway crew.
                            I agree and have no quams about helping those people, but the people who can work but choose food stamps and other aid because they are baby factories or the parents are dopers or alcoholics or no count, those aree the ones that irk me, the ones who can hang out all day on the block, watch oprah or other ways to waste monies.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Grandpa Troll View Post
                              I agree and have no quams about helping those people, but the people who can work but choose food stamps and other aid because they are baby factories or the parents are dopers or alcoholics or no count, those aree the ones that irk me, the ones who can hang out all day on the block, watch oprah or other ways to waste monies.
                              I...don't think welfare kiddies are the people they have in mind when they say "with disability"?
                              Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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