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  • Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
    I realize you inferiority complex is crushing, but its just in your own head. Let it go
    your only makeing yourself look dumb you know.

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    • Originally posted by Asher View Post
      Even if there's nothing you can do, the optics are terrible.
      I agree with your general point, but "optics"? Really?

      I've heard the "he didn't want to cause a panic" argument before, but it's not like anyone suggested he jump up and scream "DEATH! DEATH HAS COME FOR US PALE RIDER HAVE MERCY AAAAAAAH!" He could have simply put the stupid book aside and said, "I'm sorry, but something very, very important has come up that I need to attend to right away."
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      • Originally posted by Elok View Post
        I agree with your general point, but "optics"? Really?
        Yes. It's politics.

        Optics are why Giuliani was praised and why Bush was lambasted in the media for reading to the children. Optics are very important in politics.

        A good leader is good at managing the optics of a situation, too. It keeps peoples' faith in him.
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        • And if he had been reading to older kids I'd agree, but for young kids who really wouldn't understand, a few extra minutes didn't change anything, except to provide fodder for arguments into the next decade. In the grand scheme of things, it's really trivial.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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          • Is that some sort of new business-management or workplace jargon for "appearances?" If so, it's pretty damned silly IMO. Do they call public-speaking skills "excellent acoustics?"
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            • Originally posted by rah View Post
              And if he had been reading to older kids I'd agree, but for young kids who really wouldn't understand, a few extra minutes didn't change anything, except to provide fodder for arguments into the next decade. In the grand scheme of things, it's really trivial.
              Skip to the end of the book. Young kids won't know.
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              • Never heard the term "optics" used for that before either.
                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                • Originally posted by rah View Post
                  And if he had been reading to older kids I'd agree, but for young kids who really wouldn't understand, a few extra minutes didn't change anything, except to provide fodder for arguments into the next decade. In the grand scheme of things, it's really trivial.
                  My nephew's not four yet, and I really can't see him freaking out over something phrased that way. If he really, really loved the adult in question he might try to emotionally manipulate him into staying, but panic? Nuh-uh.
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                  • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                    Skip to the end of the book. Young kids won't know.
                    Yeah, I might have tried one of the tricks I used to use when reading to my daughter late at night. But again, it was only a few minutes, and while Asher keeps saying it made him look like a putz, it's his opinion. I thought it made him look presidential. Of course the press was going to look at the negatives. That's what they do. People that claim it was bad because the press said so................ I prefer to form my own opinions.
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                    • Originally posted by rah View Post
                      Never heard the term "optics" used for that before either.
                      It's a new-generation buzzword.

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                      • Originally posted by Elok View Post
                        Is that some sort of new business-management or workplace jargon for "appearances?" If so, it's pretty damned silly IMO. Do they call public-speaking skills "excellent acoustics?"
                        Optics has a more specific connotation than "appearances". Optics is a component of "perception management". A successful businessperson today is a manager of perception and a manager of expectations.

                        Seriously though, "optics" is used all the time in my business...I've also seen it frequently used in technology blogs/business sites.

                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                        • So Oerdin and Asher, what is this dire information Bush went without for 30 minutes. We are still waiting.
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                          • Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
                            So Oerdin and Asher, what is this dire information Bush went without for 30 minutes. We are still waiting.
                            I cannot explain this any better than I have done for you. You will remain hopelessly ignorant.

                            To ask this question of yours once is immensely stupid, to ask it repeatedly after people have rationally explained to you why it's an irrelevant question is even more so.

                            You talked about being a good leader. You even went so far as to call it "Leadership 101". I've enumerated why it is not an example of good leadersihp. A passive leader (or even just the perception of a passive leader) is not a good thing. People want to know that in a time of crisis, the leader is working. They need to know he is asking the right people the right question, they need to know that he's gathering as much information as possible to form decisions, they need to know he is involved. What Bush did was create the perception of somebody who didn't know what to do, and was waiting for somebody to do something for him. The fact that this perception even existed for a significant number of people was a failure in leadership.

                            He needed to be doing whatever he could to be informed about as much as possible, as fast as possible. A good leader is an informed leader. It's nonsensical to state there was nothing to be learned while he sat in that room with the cameras on him.
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                            • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                              Optics has a more specific connotation than "appearances". Optics is a component of "perception management". A successful businessperson today is a manager of perception and a manager of expectations.

                              Seriously though, "optics" is used all the time in my business...I've also seen it frequently used in technology blogs/business sites.

                              considering the overlap of our fields, I'm surprised that I've never seen it. I guess I'm just an old fuddy-duddy.
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                              • Originally posted by rah View Post
                                considering the overlap of our fields, I'm surprised that I've never seen it. I guess I'm just an old fuddy-duddy.
                                It depends what end of the business you are on. I've been dabbling in marketing/branding/partner relations fields in which "optics" is very important and mentioned frequently.
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