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    In California the region's whales are behaving very oddly and in fact it has left marine biologists completely stumped. Normally the California Grey Whales just migrate through the area between summer feeding grounds on the central Alaskan coast and breeding grounds down in Mexico. This year though the whales are behaving oddly as most of them went up to 1000 miles further north into the Arctic sea during summer and instead of going south into Mexico to have their calves the whales have instead stayed on the coast off Southern California (800 miles north of their normal calving grounds).

    For the first time ever in 200 years of records baby whales are being born off southern California instead of in Mexico. Usually the whales are gone from California by late summer but here we are in January and the whales are still here. It's all a big mystery.

    Mystery Off Long Beach: Whales and More Whales

    By Gordon Tokumatsu
    NBCLosAngeles.com
    updated 7:17 p.m. PT, Sat., Jan. 10, 2009



    A deep fog shrouded the landscape in mystery Thursday morning, as a whale-watching charter boat pulled away from Long Beach's Aquarium of the Pacific.

    The trip was an opportunity for journalists to see first-hand what thousands of tourists flock to the marina to experience every summer.

    The skipper, Dan Salas of Harbor Breeze Cruises, was asked if it was unusual for whales to be spotted off the coast this early in a new year.

    "I don't know," he said, "But something's changing in the ocean."

    Salas says he's been working the waters off the south bay for more than 20 years, and he's been noticing strange things lately -- dead pelicans, starved and floating in the water; whales with recently birthed young. Right now, he says, whale watchers have identified between 18 and 20 whales in the area.

    "Typically, they're gone by the end of summer, but here we are, the first part of January, and we still have fin whales feeding right off our coast," said Salas.

    About an hour and a half into the tour, the cry went out: "Thar she blows!" and a pair of spouts could be spotted breaking the surface nearly 100 yards off the starboard bow.

    Aquarium experts identified the animals as fin whales, second largest living creatures on earth, feeding and flirting in a loose formation. They would break the surface for just a few seconds at a time, followed by deep plunges into the 2,000-foot trench between Catalina Island and Long Beach.

    Fin whales are like giant, moving sieves, say whale experts, ingesting massive amounts of seawater and filtering out krill, their staple food. It's not clear why they're still here in early January, though, as mating and migration patterns normally place them in Baja or beyond this time of year.

    Aquarium of the Pacific's whale expert, Michele Sousa, said, "In the past two days, we saw a baby with the mother, meaning that she calved en route, instead of waiting to get to Baja."

    Sousa says the birth probably occurred because the mother went farther north to find food, and happened to stop here off Long Beach when she went into labor.

    Such oddities are cause for concern among marine experts and seafarers like Dan Salas.

    "A couple of degrees here and there changes the whole cycle of the ocean," he said.

    It's not clear whether global warming may be playing a role in the changes, although Sousa says human-generated environmental issues cannot be discounted. She pointed to floating pieces of trash passing by the boat Thursday morning.

    "It can actually impact their intestines," Sousa said, "Just like if we swallow a foreign object, it can be very detrimental to their health, especially if they get a lot of it."

    Whale watching tours leave the dock behind Long Beach's Aquarium of the Pacific on a semi-regular basis every day. Prices range from $13 for kids to $30 for adults.
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    I doubt it's climate change. It's too sudden for whales to decide to stop so far away from their usual area. There must be some other unknown reason.
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    • #3
      They're all eating popcorn and watching the strange people, highly entertained.
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      • #4
        No.

        Real scientists don't see something they don't understand and immediately assign a cause to it. They actually do research and experiments to determine the cause. Sadly, reporters are not real scientists, and apparently neither is Oerdin
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        • #5
          Originally posted by FrostyBoy View Post
          I doubt it's climate change. It's too sudden for whales to decide to stop so far away from their usual area. There must be some other unknown reason.
          Well, they are going 800-1000 miles further north during the summer and stopping 800 miles or so further north in the winter. It's an odd coincidence. They used to hang out in the Bering sea during summer and go to Mexico in the winter but now they're going to the arctic ocean during the summer and southern California during the winter. Very strange behavioral changes.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by snoopy369 View Post
            No.

            Real scientists don't see something they don't understand and immediately assign a cause to it. They actually do research and experiments to determine the cause. Sadly, reporters are not real scientists, and apparently neither is Oerdin
            The fact that the whales are going further north and then staying further north is a fact. The global climate change hypothesis is just the current working hypothesis.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
              The fact that the whales are going further north and then staying further north is a fact. The global climate change hypothesis is just the current working hypothesis.
              Is the phrase current working hypothesis a new and fun way to describe something pulled from your arse or is there any real evidence for it that you'd care to share with the rest of the class?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                Is the phrase current working hypothesis a new and fun way to describe something pulled from your arse or is there any real evidence for it that you'd care to share with the rest of the class?
                Did you ever take an even highschool-level science class? A hypothesis by definition does not require prior evidence; that comes later in the scientific method. So yes, it is pulling stuff out of your ass, by definition.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Darius871 View Post
                  Did you ever take an even highschool-level science class?
                  Is that an answer to the question I asked? Because it still sounds like he's taking an event he doesn't know the cause of and randomly assigning a cause to it without any empirical basis to back it up.
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                  • #10
                    DD is an idiot. Off to watch the game.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                      The fact that the whales are going further north and then staying further north is a fact. The global climate change hypothesis is just the current working hypothesis.
                      If it is a hypothesis, then you are agreeing with me. No real scientist would propose a hypothesis in such a way. They would propose a theory once it had been tested. Scientists that throw hypotheses around like that are laughed at and ignored.

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                      • #12
                        That sounds about right.




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                        • #13
                          Sloww, please give us all a science lesson.
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                          • #14
                            Go bless someone else with your attention, DaShi. I don't have nearly the appreciation for you that you so richly deserve.
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                            • #15
                              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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