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    Obama picks Leon Panetta for CIA director
    By Frank Davies

    Mercury News Washington Bureau

    Posted: 01/05/2009 11:55:18 AM PST

    WASHINGTON — Leon Panetta, a Northern California political veteran who served 16 years in Congress and was President Clinton's budget director and chief of staff, is President-elect Barack Obama's surprise choice to be director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

    While Panetta's experience and unquestioned integrity won him praise from some officials, skeptics questioned his lack of background in intelligence or counterterrorism. Most troubling for Panetta was the decidedly cool reaction of Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who becomes chair of the Intelligence Committee this week and will conduct his confirmation hearing.

    "My position has consistently been that I believe the agency is best-served by having an intelligence professional in charge at this time," the California Democrat said in a terse statement. She added that Obama and his team did not inform her of the choice before news leaked out Monday.

    Choosing a new CIA director has been a difficult decision for Obama. An early favorite, John Brennan, withdrew his name from consideration after some Democrats criticized his role in devising interrogation and detention policies after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    Obama and his team shied away from officials who were involved in Bush administration policies. Obama's choice for director of national intelligence, retired admiral Dennis Blair, recently headed the Institute for Defense Analyses, a government-sponsored national security think tank.

    Panetta's lack of intelligence experience is not a problem, his backers say.

    "He has an impeccable record in government and is known for his high integrity," said Gloria Duffy, president of the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco, who worked on nuclear proliferation as a Pentagon official in the 1990s.

    Panetta, 70, has a long career as a Bay Area congressman, and helped establish the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary. As budget director under Clinton, he was credited with helping balance the federal budget. He also served as White House chief of staff for three years.

    In recent years he was a member of the Iraq Study Group, which pressed President Bush unsuccessfully to negotiate with Syria and Iran and reduce the U.S. combat role in Iraq. Panetta said two years ago he was distressed by Iraqi leaders who were willing to use violence to achieve political goals.

    He directs the Panetta Institute in Monterey and has been active in efforts to reform and restructure California's budget process, co-chairing California Forward, a bipartisan project.

    During the 2008 presidential campaign, Panetta criticized Bush for "using the politics of fear to trump the law" on torture and eavesdropping. The CIA has been embroiled in controversy for using aggressive interrogation techniques that go beyond the rules of the Army Field Manual followed by the military.

    "Torture is illegal, immoral, dangerous and counterproductive," Panetta wrote in March 2008.

    Obama's decision to tap Panetta won the praise of former colleagues, including ex-Rep. Norm Mineta, a former San Jose mayor, and Rep. Anna Eshoo of Palo Alto, who serves on the House Intelligence Committee.

    "He's very smart and articulate, not ideological, and he's respected on both sides of the aisle in Congress," said Mineta, who first met him when Panetta was a law student at Santa Clara University.

    Eshoo called Panetta a "brilliant choice" who will make sure, in the wake of Iraq intelligence failures, that Obama "gets the best intelligence possible."

    Sen. Barbara Boxer, a California Democrat, also lauded the choice of Panetta: "If the president-elect's priority at the CIA is to build a spirit of trust and accountability, he has picked the right person."

    But one national security expert, Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution, said he was "confused" by the choice, because Panetta has "a great background on domestic policy, but not intelligence."

    "Put me down as a skeptic right now," O'Hanlon said.

    Some analysts predict that CIA veterans will object to Panetta as an outsider, but Duffy, the former Pentagon official, said a new generation of CIA analysts and operatives, recruited since 2001, "may not be resistant to Panetta."

    Panetta, who once considered running for governor of California, has been outspoken about the need for bipartisan leadership in a time of economic and global crisis.

    "Democracy can be ugly, depressing and frustrating, but it is what determines our fate as a nation," he wrote recently for Politico's Web site. Resolving the nation's crises, he said, "will only happen when the leadership of the nation, both Republicans and Democrats, decide that governing is more important than winning."



    How long before we see Obama telling us that Brown really did do a heck of a job? Wasn't one of the reasons people voted for Obama to end the practice of appointing people to posts they clearly aren't even remotely qualified for? Are there any real chances of this idiotic appointment getting through? Doesn't Bill Clinton know anyone with real experience Obama could appoint?
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    Come now. Comparing Panetta's experience (former WH Chief of Staff, former Director of the Office of Management and Budget, member of Congress for 16 years with chairmanships,) to Brown's (A lawyer for the Arabian Horse Association) is a real stretch.
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    • #3
      I don't see how as neither person has any real experience with the agency they were being promoted to run.
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      • #4
        Panetta definitely has management experience, Brown did not. And I would wager Panetta had significant exposure to intelligence issues when he was Clinton's CoS...

        Yup, still a really bad comparison.
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        • #5
          Point to any substantive experience Panetta has that would lead you to think he is prepared to lead the agency. I don't want assumptions as even his backers admit his lack of experience and I'll gladly admit the comparison might be shaky. Is this really the time to have a CIA Director who needs training wheels?
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #6
            Who cares about CIA Director when you have a President who needs training wheels?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
              I'll gladly admit the comparison might be shaky.
              It definitely is, and that's the only thing I'm prepared to argue with you
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut View Post
                Who cares about CIA Director when you have a President who needs training wheels?
                Better than one who needs adult diapers and a walker.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Boris Godunov View Post
                  It definitely is, and that's the only thing I'm prepared to argue with you
                  You've yet to say how given that both are unqualified to lead the agencies Bush and Obama nominated them for. I'll gladly admit Panetta's knowledge of domestic policy but that isn't the type of thing he's likely to deal with as CIA director. You might help your case by at least giving me a cogent reason why this is a good nomination to be putting foward over someone with intelligence experience.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    Its an odd choice, to be sure.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                      You might help your case by at least giving me a cogent reason why this is a good nomination to be putting foward over someone with intelligence experience.
                      Your shifting the goals, per usual.

                      I'm only addressing the asinine comparison of Panetta, who has a good deal of both government and leadership positions, including a major White House job, with Brown, who was the lawyer for a horse show association. In terms solely of management experience, this makes the Brown comparison absurd.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Boris Godunov View Post
                        I'm only addressing the asinine comparison of Panetta, who has a good deal of both government and leadership positions, including a major White House job, with Brown, who was the lawyer for a horse show association.
                        You've yet to give any cogent reason why I should believe the comparison to be asinine given the fact that neither man has experience related to the agency they want(ed) to lead. But this arguement is getting stupid and I'd like to see if anyone here would like to either defend the pick or if they have any info on the likely fate of it in the Senate.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                          How long before we see Obama telling us that Brown really did do a heck of a job? Wasn't one of the reasons people voted for Obama to end the practice of appointing people to posts they clearly aren't even remotely qualified for? Are there any real chances of this idiotic appointment getting through? Doesn't Bill Clinton know anyone with real experience Obama could appoint?

                          This isn't at all comparable to Brown. Sounds closer to George H.W. Bush.

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                          • #14
                            Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat who’s about to take the reins as chairwoman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, doesn’t appear to be too happy with Leon Panetta’s prospective appointment to head the CIA. Here’s what her office just sent me:

                            “I was not informed about the selection of Leon Panetta to be the CIA Director. I know nothing about this, other than what I’ve read,” said Senator Feinstein, who will chair the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in the 111th Congress.

                            “My position has consistently been that I believe the Agency is best-served by having an intelligence professional in charge at this time.”
                            http://washingtonindependent.com/238...h-panetta-pick
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                            • #15
                              John McLaughlin, the CIA's No. 2 official under former director George J. Tenet, said the Panetta selection was "a very good choice."

                              "What Leon Panetta lacks in direct intelligence experience, he more than makes up in sound judgment, broad governmental experience and savvy about how all the pieces fit together -- perhaps the most important qualities for a CIA director," McLaughlin said. "He also could establish an effective relationship with congressional overseers, a key part of the intelligence equation."


                              So there's one spook who likes him.

                              And, honestly, the CIA has been run for years by National Security insiders -- and what a record they've racked up: not anticipating the collapse of the Soviet Union, not anticipating Indian or Pakistani nukes, not anticipating the North Korean and Iranian nuclear programs, blocking the FBI from pursuing leads on the guys who would end up perpetrating 9/11, and affirming shoddy intelligence on Iraq. I'm baffled by the Panetta appointment, but its hard to see how he could do any more damage than the experts have done.
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