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    WASHINGTON – Nine Muslim passengers were kicked off a flight from Washington, D.C., to Florida after other passengers reported hearing a suspicious remark about airplane security.

    AirTran Airways spokesman Tad Hutcheson called the incident on the New Year's Day flight from Reagan National Airport to Orlando, Fla., a misunderstanding, but defended the company's response. He said the airline followed federal rules and did nothing wrong.

    One of the Muslim passengers, Kashif Irfan, told The Washington Post the confusion began when his brother was talking about the safest place to sit on an airplane.

    "My brother and his wife were discussing some aspect of airport security," Irfan said. "The only thing my brother said was, 'Wow, the jets are right next to my window.'"

    Irfan told the newspaper he thought he and the others were profiled because of their appearance. The men had beards and the women wore headscarves, traditional Muslim attire.

    Irfan, 34, is an anesthesiologist and his brother is a lawyer. Both live in Alexandria, Va., with their families, and were born in Detroit. They were traveling with their wives, Irfan's sister-in-law and Irfan's three sons, ages 7, 4 and 2. A family friend also was traveling with the group to a religious retreat in Florida.

    Federal officials ordered the rest of the passengers from the plane and re-screened them before allowing the flight to depart.

    The family was upset that AirTran didn't allow the Muslim passengers to book another flight. They eventually made it to their destination on a US Airways flight.

    "The FBI agents actually cleared our names," Inayet Sahin, one of the family members kicked off the flight, told CNN. "They went on our behalf and spoke to the airlines and said, 'There is no suspicious activity here. They are clear. Please let them get on a flight so they can go on their vacation,' and they still refused."

    Hutcheson said the passengers were given a full refund and are welcome to fly on AirTran now that the investigation is complete.

    Hutcheson and a federal Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman said the pilot was right to postpone the flight.

    "At the end of the day, people got on and made comments they shouldn't have made on the airplane, and other people heard them," Hutcheson said. "Other people heard them, misconstrued them. It just so happened these people were of Muslim faith and appearance. It escalated, it got out of hand and everyone took precautions."

    One of the passengers removed, Abdur Razack Aziz, said he will consider a lawsuit.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090102/...engers_removed
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    apparently the terrorists have won
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    • #3
      Exactly what I have feared!
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #4
        I'd like to hear exactly what was overheard. Somehow I think it was more than was stated in the article.

        I'm sure people may have over reacted because of what they looked like but until I know what was said, I'd reserve judgment. There's a reason they have signs about not joking about bombs when you're in the security line. Just because you fit the profile doesn't absolve you from not making jokes. I've seen them pull idiots that didn't fit the profile from line that thought they were being funny.
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        • #5
          Rah, but you do not know if any of the passengers in the article made stupid bomb jokes.
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          • #6
            But you will note that the only accout given for what was said was from the people kicked off themselves, who obviously have cause to downplay their comments as much as possible.

            I, like rah, would like to know what the people who reported them heard (or thought they heard).
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            • #7
              This is all wrong!

              The proper course of action would be to stick them in dog cages, put them in the cargo hold, then release them after the flight is over.

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              • #8
                I heard they were discussing where the safest place to sit in the plane was. Who among us has not had that discussion?

                When the FBI goes to the airline on behalf of the family, and the airline still refuses to let them on the plane, it's time for a lawsuit.

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                • #9
                  A bit of paranoia, I'm afraid. Still it was only one guy who freaked out and given how many stupid people we have in America (que video of crazy McCain lady claiming Obama is an Arab) it is to be expected.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zkribbler View Post
                    I heard they were discussing where the safest place to sit in the plane was. Who among us has not had that discussion?

                    When the FBI goes to the airline on behalf of the family, and the airline still refuses to let them on the plane, it's time for a lawsuit.
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                    • #11
                      Honestly, I'm in the family's camp here, but only because AirTran is a ****ing **** airline.

                      They cancelled my flight and told me not to bother with standby, but they'd put me on a flight to Atlanta on the 29th. I was supposed to fly back the 30th.

                      This, after two separate flights when their ****ing airplane dripped condensate on me the entire time--to the point where I did not feel guilty tearing the goddamn curtain separating me from business class and stuffing it into the damn vents. For an airline with one of the youngest fleets, their cabins sure are ****ing pieces of ****.

                      ****ing a, the only airline I hate more is ****ing goddamn piece of **** US Airways.
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                      • #12
                        And, just so you guys know how I really feel, AirTran is a ****ing piece of **** and I hope the company ****ing crashes faster than ValuJet Flight 592.
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                        • #13
                          Southwest.

                          $79 round trip fares between San Diego and Las Vegas.

                          (Already booked for the 17th through 19th)
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                          • #14
                            I agree, I took my first SouthWest flight recently and have to say I was quite impressed on how they ran things.
                            Their business model is superior and the reason for their success compared to the other airlines. Too bad I have to fly out of midway instead of o'hare to use it, but it was worth it.
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                            • #15
                              Southwest is also the airlines with the best safety record.
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