So what's with the English?

[Dis]

Why are you all so violent drunks? I know, I know not all of you are. But this is a new years eve out of control. You'd never see this kind of mayhem in the U.S. We are civilized- or perhaps we are so fat off of McDonald's we cannot move.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1103843/Boozy-Britains-bloody-New-Year-A-999-seven-seconds-alcohol-induced-mayhem.html

and this story. not about new years eve, but I'll post it anyways.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1103471/Police-called-mob-500-gatecrashers-storm-Facebook-birthday-party.html

[FrostyBoy]

The English keep thinking the world is coming to an end, so they party hard on the last day of the year, thinking it's the end.

Then the next morning they get a rude dose of reality.

[Winston]

Well they can't be as bad as the "French". It was reported that, once again, 445 cars got torched on New Year's Eve. 35,000 police were called up to control things. What a lovely way to party.

[Dis]

note to self: don't move to france and buy a car there.

[Cort Haus]

Firstly, the Daily Mail is a fear and hate-mongering joke of a newspaper.

Second, there's something funny about someone in the USA sneering about violence in other countries.

[Dis]

there's very little violence in the U.S. At least against people who don't deserve it. Most people who die in the U.S. did so because they pissed people off. Most people don't go around randomly killing people. Or as in England, randomly getting in fights with other people.

oh I'm exaggerating a bit above btw. But most violence is gang violence. And when you live by the sword, you know the rest. hmm. interesting I can put a reason for editing. Let's test this out.

[Traianvs]

Well they can't be as bad as the "French". It was reported that, once again, 445 cars got torched on New Year's Eve. 35,000 police were called up to control things. What a lovely way to party.

Correction: about 1100 cars went up in flames. Nice

[DrSpike]

firstly, the daily mail is a fear and hate-mongering joke of a newspaper.

Second, there's something funny about someone in the usa sneering about violence in other countries.

qft.

[Straybow]

Yeah, really. We only have riots when our courts declare policemen not guilty of trumped-up "civil rights" violations regarding the beating of a crackhead "motorist"

[DaShi]

Actually, we export quite a bit of violence as well.

[thesilentone]

there's very little violence in the U.S. At least against people who don't deserve it. Most people who die in the U.S. did so because they pissed people off. Most people don't go around randomly killing people. Or as in England, randomly getting in fights with other people.

oh I'm exaggerating a bit above btw. But most violence is gang violence. And when you live by the sword, you know the rest. hmm. interesting I can put a reason for editing. Let's test this out.

EUROPE AND USA CITIES
MURDERS PER 100,000

(1) Washington, D.C., USA 69.3
(2) Philadelphia, USA 27.4
(3) Dallas, USA 24.8
(4) Los Angeles, USA 22.8
(5) Chicago, USA 20.5
(6) Phoenix, USA 19.1
(7) Moscow, Russia 18.1
(8) Houston, USA 18.0
(9) New York City, USA 16.8
(10) Helsinki, Finland 12.5
(11) Lisbon, Portugal 9.7
(12) San Diego, USA 8.0
(13) Amsterdam, Netherlands 7.7
(14) Belfast, N.Ireland, UK 4.4
(15) Geneva, Switzerland 4.2
(16) Copenhagen, Denmark 4.0
(17) Berlin, Germany 3.8
(18) Paris, France 3.3
(19) Stockholm, Sweden 3.0
(20) Prague, Czechoslovakia 2.9

[AngieC]

So what's with the Americans?

[FrostyBoy]

Is New York City oddly low?

America's police force is more of a business: no murders = no business = no money.

[Felch]

EUROPE AND USA CITIES
MURDERS PER 100,000

(1) Washington, D.C., USA 69.3

What's the year for this? I don't recall DC being that bad for a while. It was mostly the crack. And crack did some horrible **** to DC. Even the mayor was getting high.

Like Dis said, this isn't random violence. It's not like you walk down a nice street in DC and you have a significant chance of dying. You think the people in charge would let that happen? Murder is disproportionately something that happens to people who choose to live outside the law. It's also why gun ownership is linked to being a victim of gun crime. The rough parts of town (Southeast DC for instance) are hell on Earth. That's the price we pay for living in one of the freest nations on the planet. There's less of an invasive nanny state telling us to scrub behind our ears and watching our every step.

[Dis]

yup as the above post said. And as I said. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Being in gangs isn't exactly a safe activity.

The real question is why there are so many murders in Helsinki.