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    Imagine... Stalin was leading pack for a while but in the end lost by 5000 votes. Classy stuff you're displaying Russia.



    Stalin voted third-best Russian

    Former Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin was beaten by medieval prince Alexander Nevsky in a poll held by a TV station to find the greatest Russian.

    Stalin came third, despite being responsible for the deaths of millions of Soviets in labour camps and purges.

    Alexander Nevsky fought off European invaders in the 13th century to preserve a united Russia.

    In second place was reformist Prime Minister Pyotr Stolypin, who was assassinated in 1911.

    More than 50 million people voted by phone, the internet or via text messages in the poll held by Rossiya, one of Russia's biggest television stations.

    The voting took place over six months as 500 original candidates were whittled down to a final 12.

    Rehabilitation campaign

    Stalin - born an ethnic Georgian - was riding high for many months and was in the number one slot at one point until the show's producer appealed to viewers to vote for someone else, says the BBC's Richard Galpin in Moscow.

    Stalin sent millions of people to their deaths in the work camps of the Gulag. Millions more perished in political purges or during the forced collectivisation of farms during his rule from the 1920s to his death in 1953.

    Many in Russia do still revere Stalin for his role during World War II when the Soviet Union defeated the forces of Nazi Germany.

    But now there is a much broader campaign to rehabilitate Stalin and it seems to be coming from the highest levels of government, says our correspondent.

    "We now have to think very seriously, why the nation chooses to put [Joseph] Stalin in third place," said actor and film director Nikita Mikhalkov, one of the contest's judges, after the results were released.

    Nevsky fought off Swedish and Germanic invasions to preserve medieval Russia. He also pursued a conciliatory policy with the powerful Mongol rulers to protect Russia's eastern flank.

    He was canonised as a saint by the Russian Orthodox Church in the 16th century.

    Stolypin is remembered for his attempts to modernise agriculture and and stifle leftist revolutionaries as prime minister under Tsar Nicholas II.
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    Published: 2008/12/28 22:50:36 GMT

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  • #2
    Does Great mean most moral, Colon?
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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    • #3
      From Wikipedia


      Historians argue that Stalin was partly responsible for the initial military disasters and enormous human casualties during WWII, because he eliminated so many experienced military officers during the purges. He especially attacked the most senior officers and had rejected intelligence warning of the German attack.


      Ignore the morality for a second. Does that sound like a great leader?
      John Brown did nothing wrong.

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      • #4
        I think DD means "great" as in having the most impact.
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #5
          DinoDoc thinks that George Bush is a great leader.
          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
          "Capitalism ho!"

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          • #6
            DD actually would think than in the long run, Bush may not have that much impact, but I won't presume to speak for him on this.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #7
              Btw, where's Putin
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                I think DD means "great" as in having the most impact.
                Like an asteroid?

                Tunguska FTW!
                John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  DD actually would think than in the long run, Bush may not have that much impact, but I won't presume to speak for him on this.
                  DD wonders why you are responding to DaShi saying stupid things. It demeans everyone involved. He further thinks its too soon to rate the Bush admin from a historical perspective but thinks he'll be rated fairly low in terms of US presidents.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    The contest is indeed about 'most important' or most influential Russian.

                    Heck it's just a TV show, nuff said.
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                    • #11
                      It correct wording is actually "best Russian", which seems to preclude someone who's had a negative impact.
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                      • #12
                        You really have to scrape to find a "Greatest Russian".
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #13
                          I vote for Serb
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #14
                            Why did was this thread advertised as being about Germans?
                            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              I vote for Serb
                              Vote for who?
                              Also, it wasn't the "Greatest Russian" contest, technically. People were choosing a "Symbol of Russia".
                              So, we now have:
                              1. A prince who kicked European ass and was all buddy-buddy with the Mongols.
                              2. A nob who wanted to modernize Russia using whatever means necessary, but couldn't.
                              3. A Georgian guy who wanted to modernize Russia using whatever means necessary, and could.
                              Oh, and in the fourth place we have a guy who created modern Russian language.
                              Graffiti in a public toilet
                              Do not require skill or wit
                              Among the **** we all are poets
                              Among the poets we are ****.

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