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  • GM & Chrysler on the Brink -- Part 3

    Bush appears to be considering a prepackaged bankruptcy of sorts for GM and Chrysler. I guess this would include government-guaranteed Debtor-In-Possession financing.

    This could be the best available outcome, depending on the terms of the bankruptcy.

    Bush Says Bankruptcy May Be Option For Autos

    An "orderly" bankruptcy may be the best way of handling the struggling U.S. auto industry, President Bush indicated today as he spoke before the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative Washington think tank. However, he said he hasn't decided what action he will take, the Associated Press reports.

    White House press secretary Dana Perino said today, “There's an orderly way to do bankruptcies that provides for more of a soft landing. I think that's what we would be talking about.”

    Bush said bankruptcies organized by the federal government could be an option.

    “Under normal circumstances, no question bankruptcy court is the best way to work through credit and debt and restructuring,” he said to the group. “These aren't normal circumstances. That's the problem.”

    Perino said: “The president is not going to allow a disorderly collapse of the companies. A disorderly collapse would be something very chaotic that is a shock to the system.”

    But there are a lot of options out there, including short-term loans out of a $700 billion financial sector bailout fund.

    Perino said the administration is close to making a decision, but would not lay out a specific timetable. The decision may not come this week, she said.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #3
      BUT NO ONE WILL BUY A CAR FROM A COMPANY IN BANKRUPTCY DANS!!!

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      • #4
        I'd be good with this, I think. Probably the most reasonable compromise for all parties.
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        • #5
          Anything so long as it's a bankruptcy court and not a political-appointee "auto czar" running this thing.

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          • #6
            It's better than the alternative.
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
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            • #7
              I would be interested in knowing what interests are part of the package. For instance, is the UAW part of the package, or would their interests be worked out in the bankruptcy?

              As I understand it, they can put in or take out interests as appropriate before bankruptcy.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #8
                Cautious from me.

                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #9
                  I like how GM is saying they aren't in talks with Chrysler, but the news articles keeps saying they are.

                  Well, maybe the should be?!
                  Monkey!!!

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                  • #10
                    The entire economy is waiting for either bailouts or rationalizations. It is causing a lot of hesitation. Also (my opinion), the natural result of mass intervention, mass transfers of taxpayer wealth the Goldman Sachs, CDO counterparties, etc. has caused a (rational) expectation of a large recession, which is making almost every company do major things to draw in their heads, stop growth, etc.

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                    • #11
                      Hmm. I know nothing about economics, so here's a stupid suggestion. I gather from the little economic news I pay attention to that recessions follow this sequence:

                      1. News outlets spot some financial turmoil, speculate on possibility of recession
                      2. Everybody worries about losing out in said recessions and starts cutting back
                      3. Cutbacks exacerbate existing problems, deepening turmoil
                      4. News outlets report deepening turmoil
                      5. Repeat 1-4 until public is so sick of it that news about the troubles doesn't sell and they start reporting about dreck like people teaching squirrels to juggle
                      6. Slow, painful recovery

                      So, my idea: seeing as muzzling the press, in addition to being impractical, would violate the first amendment, how about creating a law that declares a state of Martial Money Law? Every quarter the firm in each industry that grows the least and cuts back the most of its existing assets gets nationalized and then liquidated, so everyone's in a panic race to not be too cautious and get devoured. The relative increase in growth slows the recession, and the liquidated losers' cash goes into stimulus checks or something.

                      I'm sure this is a daft idea somehow, but I take comfort from knowing that it's probably marginally less stupid than our current policy.
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                      • #12
                        We could turn it into a game show.

                        Advertising dollars could go to fund the bailout.
                        Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                        When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                        • #13
                          Deeply disappointed from what I've read so far.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Elok
                            Hmm. I know nothing about economics, so here's a stupid suggestion. I gather from the little economic news I pay attention to that recessions follow this sequence:

                            1. News outlets spot some financial turmoil, speculate on possibility of recession
                            2. Everybody worries about losing out in said recessions and starts cutting back
                            3. Cutbacks exacerbate existing problems, deepening turmoil
                            4. News outlets report deepening turmoil
                            5. Repeat 1-4 until public is so sick of it that news about the troubles doesn't sell and they start reporting about dreck like people teaching squirrels to juggle
                            6. Slow, painful recovery
                            In other words..."The only thing we have to fear...is Fear itself".
                            The undeserving maintain power by promoting hysteria.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DanS
                              Deeply disappointed from what I've read so far.
                              Details?
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                              I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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