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  • #76
    Originally posted by KrazyHorse


    Yes, that's the point (note this is not actual experimental data)
    BS. That would mean that you would know what data you would get.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • #77
      Note: if your answer involves a compression ratio of greater than ~1.1 you have done something wrong
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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      • #78
        Originally posted by BlackCat


        BS. That would mean that you would know what data you would get.
        No.

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        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
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        • #79
          Originally posted by KrazyHorse

          Well, advanced data compression isn't just "squeezing" the zeros - it's also turning streams of data into something shorter.


          BC, do you mind explaining to me how you would meaningfully compress 2 uniformly distributed 10 digit decimal numbers with correlation coefficient 0.5?

          Of course I won't. I don't know enough about it. I suggest that you find a person that knows the subject and have both analytical and programming skills

          Edit: need some sleep - it's 2 here and I'm theroretically expected to meet at work at 9.
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by BlackCat


            Of course I won't. I don't know enough about it. I suggest that you find a person that knows the subject and have both analytical and programming skills
            In other words you don't understand the type of data we're talking about and don't know anything about data compression but can tell us that data compression would be useful?



            You're way out of your depth here, dude.
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
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            • #81
              Well, he did ask what you were doing but you didn't answer him. After that I honestly don't know why he bothered anymore.

              Still it seems the venting has helped and your blood pressure is back to normal
              "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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              • #82
                Originally posted by BlackCat
                Of course I won't. I don't know enough about it. I suggest that you find a person that knows the subject and have both analytical and programming skills
                Hi.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Ming
                  Yes... Civil

                  It is OK to whine like a stuck pig, but if your want to rant like a drunken sailor (HI GP) there are other places that appreciate it more than we do

                  It's easy enough rant without using a hundred stars.
                  Kitty gets to misbehave too, please.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Zevico
                    Blargh. Delete this post, for the good of humanity. Or Apolyton.
                    Done.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by dannubis
                      Well, he did ask what you were doing but you didn't answer him. After that I honestly don't know why he bothered anymore.
                      a) We were talking about Jon's data

                      b) Jon's data is similar to mine

                      c) I told him enough for him to draw the conclusion that data compression was useless

                      d) I told him that data compression was useless, but he refused to listen and instead starting arguing on a subject he simply doesn't understand any part of (neither the computational side nor the scientific side)
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
                      Ultima Ratio Regum

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                        a) We were talking about Jon's data
                        Si - though you didn't answer my original question.

                        b) Jon's data is similar to mine
                        Probably

                        c) I told him enough for him to draw the conclusion that data compression was useless
                        Nope. You said in an almost religious way that you had the true answer and considered me for a heretic to question the spoken word.

                        d) I told him that data compression was useless, but he refused to listen and instead starting arguing on a subject he simply doesn't understand any part of (neither the computational side nor the scientific side)
                        That you honestly don't know **** about.

                        OT - how the hell did you actually manage to be caugth on the 2 G limit ? You know that you are going to produce lots of data but don't know if your system can handle it ?
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by BlackCat
                          Nope. You said in an almost religious way that you had the true answer and considered me for a heretic to question the spoken word.
                          No, I consider you to be an idiot for arguing against something so self-evident.



                          I'm beginning to see why Asher makes fun of you.
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • #88
                            OT - how the hell did you actually manage to be caugth on the 2 G limit ? You know that you are going to produce lots of data but don't know if your system can handle it ?


                            Weak. "My" system is a network run by a self-contained IT crew. And I am in no way, shape or form an information, technology or systems expert. Merely a user.

                            I am, however, informed enough about the fundamentals of data encoding to see why compression cannot be meaningfully applied to streams of real numbers from the measurement of continuous physical variables.

                            You utter twit.

                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #89
                              BC's posts in this thread remind me of the xkcd comic where the protagonist tries to fake his way in different subjects by mindlessly mouthing catchphrases.

                              His suggestion to engineers working on a problem is "have you tried logarithms"?



                              EDIT: here it is

                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • #90
                                That you honestly don't know **** about.


                                Dude, what the ****. You have two physicists and two compscis telling you that this data is basically incompressible, and you complain that none of us know what we're talking about?

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