Hillary Unqualified to be Sec of State

[Kuciwalker]

Actually that's not quite correct. The intent was to prevent patronage of legislators by the executive.

[Berzerker]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


Right. And nobody ever noticed that before; not when Saxbe was appointed AG, nor when Edmund Muskie became Secretary of State, now when Lloyd Bentsen became Secretary of the Treasury. In spite of the poisonously partisan nature of American politics over the past decades, and in spite of national politics being chock-full of lawyers, the Emolument Clause been a non-issue.

But now I see that's all because it's never been looked at before by internet geeks who've stopped masturbating to porn just long enough to become constitutional scholars! Silly me!

I stand by my previous "Puh-leeze."

When both parties have a vested interest in ignoring the Constitution, that poisonously partisan nature disappears. You didn't know that? You aint too bright. Gee, you've cited Dems and Repubs violating this provision of the Constitution and you think that means they aren't violating the Constitution because they've agreed to do it Oh, and spare me the ****ing hypocrisy, you're on the internet debating the meaning of the Constitution too.

[TheStinger]

So what happens if teh pres, vice pres and sec of state get taken out, under your interpretation the leaders of the house and senate can't becaome pres if the pres has been voted a pay rise.

[Kuciwalker]

He's the one providing actual precedent, you dolt.

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[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by TheStinger
So what happens if teh pres, vice pres and sec of state get taken out, under your interpretation the leaders of the house and senate can't becaome pres if the pres has been voted a pay rise.

Stop bringing logic into this

Btw, Secretary of State isn't in the succession until after the President Pro Tem of the Senate and Speaker of the House.

[Blaupanzer]

Re: Re: Hillary Unqualified to be Sec of State

Originally posted by DirtyMartini so she's off the hook

I like this response much better.

The fact that she might be unqualified, as she has no foreign policy experience we could discuss elsewhere. Travel to foreign lands, even to meet heads of state, hardly makes one an expert in how the UUS should interact with the world. She should have been offered HHS, and Richardson should have been offered State.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Stop bringing logic into this

Btw, Secretary of State isn't in the succession until after the President Pro Tem of the Senate and Speaker of the House.

My mistake I always thought they were no 3- does the chief justice come after the sec of state

[Imran Siddiqui]

No. He's not in the line:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession

[TCO]

Who cares. Obama is Kenyan.

[GePap]

More detailed info on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxbe_fix

[Dr Strangelove]

Of course she's unqualified to be Secretary of State. She should be Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare.

[Zkribbler]

Re: Re: Re: Hillary Unqualified to be Sec of State

Originally posted by Blaupanzer
... She should have been offered VP, and Biden should have been offered State.

Fixed

[Berzerker]

Originally posted by TheStinger
So what happens if teh pres, vice pres and sec of state get taken out, under your interpretation the leaders of the house and senate can't becaome pres if the pres has been voted a pay rise.

They wouldn't be appointed, I think the line of succession is a different matter

edit: actually the prohibition is on taking civil appointments, not elected office.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Actually that's not quite correct. The intent was to prevent patronage of legislators by the executive.

Madison wrote that it was to stop legislators from creating positions or raising the pay for positions and then taking those positions for themselves.

[Kuciwalker]

Wikipedia and my recollection of the federalist papers disagree with him, then.