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    Worldwide Recession

    LONDON – The world's developed economies, hard hit by the financial crisis, have slid into recession and will shrink further in 2009, a top international organization said Thursday.

    In its latest economic forecasts, the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development said gross domestic product was likely to fall by 0.3 percent in 2009 for its 30 member countries, representing democracies with market economies.

    It said the U.S. economy would contract next year by 0.9 percent, Japan's by 0.1 percent and the euro area by 0.5 percent.

    Additionally, it was the first time since 1974-5, when they were suffering from the Arab oil embargo and a severe bear market for stocks, that the U.S., Europe and Japan have fallen into recession.

    This time, all three are shrinking in the same year; in the wake of the first oil price shock in 1973, Japan saw negative growth in 1974 followed a year later by the U.S. and Europe.

    And it was the first time the organization has seen an aggregate shrinkage in its members economies since it started keeping records in 1970.

    The latest forecasts represent a sharp downgrade since the last set in June, when the OECD forecast OECD growth of 1.7 percent in 2009 and indicated that the worst of the financial crisis might have passed. Since then though, the outlook for the world economy has deteriorated sharply in the wake of the banking crisis, which is rapidly spreading to the wider economy.

    For the fourth quarter, the organization said its members would likely see a contraction of 1.4 percent on a year-on-year basis, with the U.S. down 2.8 percent, and Japan and the euro area 1.0 percent lower. Negative growth will be recorded through the second quarter of 2009, meeting the technical definition of recession as two or more consecutive quarters of negative growth.

    "The OECD area economy appears to have entered recession," said Jorgen Elmeskov, director of the policy studies branch and the OECD's economics department. He said that while the picture was uncertain "projections point to a protracted downturn" with recovery not likely before the second half of next year, with the U.S. leading the way out of recession.

    Key risks include a longer than anticipated return to normal in financial markets, which have fallen sharply. The OECD's projections assume that the financial stress since the banking crisis exploded in mid-September will prove to be "short-lived" but be followed by an "extended period of financial headwinds" through the end of next year, with conditions then returning to near normal.

    Other hazards include further failures of financial institutions; emerging market economies being hit harder by the downturn in global trade, and foreign investors turning even more more risk-shy.

    More hopeful possibilities included a quicker than expected adjustment in bank balance sheets following concerted measures by management, central banks and governments around the world to shore up their finances, and more substantial fiscal stimulus measures from governments in the form of higher spending and lower taxes.

    However, Elmeskov said any government measures should be "timely and temporary and designed to so as to ensure maximum effectiveness" and that a credible framework is in place to ensure budget responsibility in the long-term.

    Tax cuts aimed at credit-starved consumers might prove effective, he added.

    This weekend's meeting of the Group of 20 industrialized and emerging economies in Washington is expected to back coordinated tax cuts or spending boosts around the world.

    The OECD also put its weight behind efforts to bolster the regulatory framework for the financial world, in particular to increase transparency and prevent a recurrence of the financial aspects of the crisis, which started with the collapse of the market for bonds based on U.S. mortgages to people with shaky credit.

    "It will also be necessary to re-examine the features of the regulatory and supervisory framework that created incentives for excessive risk-taking and led financial institutions to increase leverage in non-transparent ways to levels that proved to be unsustainable," said Elmeskov.

    Though the leaders of the G-20 will be discussing reform proposals, final agreements on concrete measures are expected to wait until after President-elect Barack Obama enters the White House in January.
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

  • #2
    Damn, I wish I had money to put in the stock market.

    I'd be buying index funds like nobody's business right now.

    Probably a mix of US and Canadian ones. Don't understand the FX market outside that, and I'm unlikely to move anywhere outside NA (other than the UK) so I don't need to hedge exchange rate uncertainty for Europe or Asia.
    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
    Ultima Ratio Regum

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    • #3
      A buying opportunity and us with no $, where is the justice in that?
      No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
      "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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      • #4
        I know. Should probably buy on margin. But too *****.
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • #5
          Isn't that what got us into this mess?
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #6
            No.
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • #7
              Damn, I wish I had money to put in the stock market.

              I'd be buying index funds like nobody's business right now.
              I know.

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              • #8
                If I had any moneyI would invest as well. Doesn't your wife have some money KH?

                JM
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                • #9
                  I'd be waiting a bit still. VIX still at ~60 suggests there's still way too much volatility in the market for the bear to be done with.

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                  • #10
                    We will be lucky to keep unemployment rate below 15% this time. If the government suddenly decides to balance the budget and support the US$ next year, Great Depression II.

                    But I think Obama will resort to printing, screwing over those retiring boomers once and for all.

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                    • #11
                      I say DOW 6000 in a 1.5 years.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by One_more_turn
                        We will be lucky to keep unemployment rate below 15% this time. If the government suddenly decides to balance the budget and support the US$ next year, Great Depression II.

                        But I think Obama will resort to printing, screwing over those retiring boomers once and for all.
                        They've already resorted to printing. The budget deficit is going to be over a trillion dollars and the amount that the're actually printing is more than that. The baby boomers might as well get screwed over with the rest of us. There's no way I'm getting social security. I'm 40.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                          No.
                          idiot
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • #14
                            Yes, you are one, Kid.
                            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Oerdin
                              I say DOW 6000 in a 1.5 years.
                              I say you are very optimistic.

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