Some People think all Veterans Are Evil

[Asher]

For che to **** off in.

[rah]

Hmm how many posts will this thread last. Hmmm
I'll bet very few.

[Darius871]

Commie veterans are still coo!

[Blaupanzer]

Would help if Che chimed in.

[chequita guevara]

As I understand it, these types of threads are against the rules.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles
As I understand it, these types of threads are against the rules.

It's also against the rule to be personally insulting.

To call Veterans (of which many people on this site are) "evil" is to be deeply personally insulting.

This is your chance to defend yourself.

You're claiming anyone who participates in a war is evil. That is to say anyone who fought against Hitler's invading forces are evil.

Defend yourself.

I will not have you tarnish a nice thread respecting our veterans with your insensitive trolls, so this thread is for you to get off in.

[snoopy369]

While the thread title would have caused me to close this if rah hadn't posted in it, I certainly think you should confine your political arguments on this subject to a thread outside of those threads that are respectfully honoring our nations' dead.

If you prefer to make your own appropriately titled thread, I will close this one...

[Asher]

This thread title is honest, there's nothing wrong with it.

[Unimatrix11]

Well, if you did that CS, i think it would be appropreiate to apologize. You see, i dont think much of veterans either (except the example Asher gave maybe), but i wouldnt say that in a thread that is about the contrary. Just like i wouldnt fart on a funeral, even if i dont know anyone there. We just have to deal with the fact that many are more emotional about soldiery than rational and that when they are celebrating their emotions, that that is an especially bad time to do anything about it... As an atheist it would be a bad idea to try to convince someone of the non-existence of god, esp. when that person is in the middle of his prayer...

[Blaupanzer]

A whole argumentative line exists that people who become soldiers are being used by the "Capitalist State" to advance the interests of big business. Thus to be a veteran is to have been used. However the Socialists and Marxists who advance that line generally have no state of their own to defend. Most of the time, the tune changes rapidly when the tanks approach crewed by people who have vowed to kill you and yours. Some folks stay true to that philosophy even then, ala Ghandi, although no communists, Socialists, Marxists spring to mind.

[rah]

Ok, there is value to a real discussion and not a bunch of name calling. SO I've changed the title and you guys can have at it.

[Blaupanzer]

Much better title,

[Darius871]

Moved from other thread:

Originally posted by Comrade Snuggles
Darius, our county is not the one being attacked. Our country is the one doing the attacking. Canada, being our poodle, falls into the bad guy category, and thus, those who serve our Empire are not good guys.

I'm kindasorta thinking more in the past tense, and also I never said anything about the U.S.

Take the quintessential example of Barbarossa. You're a citizen in the USSR and while you might rightly feel that following your government blindly to war perpetuates the evil of war, you must also recognize that regardless of what decision you make, the Nazis will nonetheless remain perfectly comfortable with that evil (in fact they relish it). Why make their job easier?

[Elok]

Do the folks who followed Lenin count as veterans?

[chequita guevara]

It's one thing to be a veteran in war of self-defense. When is the last war of self-defense the U.S. fought? Hmmmm . . . I think it was 1812. Of course, that was mixed in with an imperialist adventure on Canada. People have a right to defend themselves, and in this world, most people need to defend themselves from the people who become American vets.

Asher's thread doesn't qualify which he is praising, but let's assume he does not include the Japanese and German vets, both groups of whom believed very strongly in their duty to fight for their countries. Now how is it that Asia reacts whenever a Japanese politician visits the memorial to the war dead? What about when someone attempts to honor the German war dead?

Our Empire has killed over ten million around the world since the end of WWII. Canada has helped. This is something of which to be proud? The murder and destruction of whole nations is something we should honor? The vets I honor are the ones who said no.