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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kidicious
    They only call themselves commies. Also, they are set up for the perfect Marxist economic crash.
    Maybe that was their plan all along behind closed doors - get the West addicted to their cheap goods to the point of absurd trade deficits and dangerous imbalance of foreign reserves, and then deliberately tank the global economy to the point that it all goes commie simultaneously. Deng Xiaoping was no traitor after all!
    Unbelievable!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DanS
      Leaving aside the value judgments, I find it interesting that workers would continue on the job without getting paid.
      you would be suprised... after Yugoslavia fell apart and we had a war in Croatia many businesses collapsed, but people still went to work, sometimes more than a year... as long as "something" existed.. in 25%+ unemployment economy you hold on to any hope of getting better and even working for insolvent companies without getting paid while waiting for some eventual compensation is better than sitting at home doing nothing...

      add that to the rampant "new capitalist" class destroying value in order to fill in their own pockets - not pretty at all, but ordinary people working for no pay - when the circumstances are bad enough - they will most certainly do it...
      Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Darius871


        Maybe that was their plan all along behind closed doors - get the West addicted to their cheap goods to the point of absurd trade deficits and dangerous imbalance of foreign reserves, and then deliberately tank the global economy to the point that it all goes commie simultaneously. Deng Xiaoping was no traitor after all!
        That's the mother of all conspiracy theories.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Kidicious


          That's the mother of all conspiracy theories.
          All it takes is a man with a plan. Of course, I just ripped off the idea from the Simpsons (wrt Russia).
          Unbelievable!

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          • #20
            I was going to say that it would actually be better if it involved Lenin who was actually not dead.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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            • #21
              Che, just saw on the news that there's a storm forming in the Gulf that could turn into a umm, a ahhh, storm.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kidicious
                I was going to say that it would actually be better if it involved Lenin who was actually not dead.
                No, everybody knows Lenin was a capitalist agent intended to discredit socialism for decades to come. Which he accomplished very well BTW.
                Unbelievable!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
                  you would be suprised... after Yugoslavia fell apart and we had a war in Croatia many businesses collapsed, but people still went to work, sometimes more than a year... as long as "something" existed.. in 25%+ unemployment economy you hold on to any hope of getting better and even working for insolvent companies without getting paid while waiting for some eventual compensation is better than sitting at home doing nothing...

                  add that to the rampant "new capitalist" class destroying value in order to fill in their own pockets - not pretty at all, but ordinary people working for no pay - when the circumstances are bad enough - they will most certainly do it...
                  Even in the darkest days of the Great Depression, I can't imagine that American workers would have shown up to a job for a company that didn't make payroll.

                  So you can see my interest.
                  Last edited by DanS; November 5, 2008, 22:07.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    Leaving aside the value judgments, I find it interesting that workers would continue on the job without getting paid.
                    It happens all the time. Hello...
                    In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                    • #25
                      Where?
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        I've seen that reported really often.

                        It happens in Quebec. You regularly hear: "X company, that went under the protection of bankruptcy laws, has not paid its employees for Y weeks".
                        In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                        • #27
                          During the worst of the Yeltsin days, Russian workers didn't receive their pay for months. Ditto for Argentina during the crisis...
                          In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                          • #28
                            No way. Hmmm... I have never heard a similar report in the States. Maybe I just haven't paid attention or they just don't report that piece of information in our newspapers.

                            Edit: This relates to your first post, not the second post.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #29
                              In Argentina it also used to happen a lot during the 1998-2002 recession, you would hear x company has not paid its employees for four months for example
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