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    All we have is an election to whine about.

    By MICHELLE FAUL – 2 hours ago

    KILIMANYOKA, Congo (AP) — Rebels vowing to take Congo's eastern provincial capital advanced toward Goma Tuesday, sending tens of thousands fleeing. Chaos gripped a separate front as government soldiers fired on civilians and aid workers trying to escape, the top U.N. envoy said.

    Alan Doss said peacekeepers were forced to "respond," apparently meaning they shot at troops who are supposed to be their allies, after the soldiers opened fire on those trying to leave Rutshuru, about 45 miles north of Goma. He vowed to keep Rutshuru and other strategic towns out of rebel hands.

    "We are going to remain there, and we are going to act against any effort to take over a city or major population center by force," Doss told reporters in New York in a videoconference.

    U.N. helicopter gunships were being used on fronts near Rutshuru and Kilimanyoka, about seven miles north of Goma. They were hampered by rebels' use of civilians as shields, U.N. spokeswoman Sylvia van den Wildenberg told The Associated Press.

    The rebels also are fighting around Rugari, a town several miles north of Kilimanyoka and also between Goma and Rutshuru, as well as northwest of Goma around Sake — using several fronts to scatter government forces and U.N. peacekeepers.

    By late afternoon Tuesday, it appeared the use of the gunships was paying off. About 200 government soldiers were nearly two miles closer to the rebels than the line of the troops that retreated. They were being resupplied from a truck loaded with rocket-propelled grenades.

    Aid agencies in Rutshuru said their workers could hear bombs exploding as the rebels closed in and angry and frightened civilians and soldiers blocked their evacuation by U.N. peacekeepers.

    The mob looted humanitarian centers and the belongings of about 50 trapped aid workers in Rutshuru, said Ivo Brandau, a spokesman for the U.N. humanitarian agency OCHA.

    Brandau said tens of thousands of civilians were fleeing that town, heading north and east toward the Ugandan border. Rutshuru had a population of about 30,000 residents and the same number of refugees.

    Doctors Without Borders said its doctors and nurses trapped at Rutshuru Hospital had treated 70 war wounded since Sunday but most patients had fled the hospital.

    Meanwhile, a sudden influx of an estimated 30,000 people tripled in a matter of hours the size of a camp in Kibati, a few miles from the Goma front line, said Ron Redmond, spokesman for the U.N. refugee agency.

    "It's chaos up there," Redmond told The Associated Press from Geneva, citing U.N. staff in Congo. "These crowds of people coming down from the north have already started turning up there."

    In Kibati, young men lobbed rocks Tuesday at three U.N. tanks also heading away from the battlefield. The U.N.'s peacekeeping mission is the agency's biggest in the world, with 17,000 troops.

    "What are they doing? They are supposed to protect us," said Jean-Paul Maombi, a 31-year-old nurse from Kibumba.

    Doss said the U.N. peacekeeping force was stretched to the limit and called for more troops to be added quickly. With time of the essence, he left open the possibility of using an outside force, which would be brought in for a specific purpose and a limited period.

    Late Tuesday, the U.N. Security Council late Tuesday called for an immediate cease-fire and Chinese Ambassador Zhang Yesui, this month's council president, condemned the fighters battling U.N. peacekeepers

    "Council members urged all parties to immediately observe a cease-fire and to implement the disengagement plan," Zhang said.

    Alain Le Roy, the U.N. peacekeeping chief, told reporters late Tuesday, after briefing council members, that diplomats shared "a sense of urgency" and seemed receptive to sending additional battalions and other reinforcements to shore up the U.N.'s peacekeeping force in Congo, known as MONUC.

    He disputed the notion that the peacekeeping force has failed to protect civilians.

    "I cannot say at all that MONUC has failed. MONUC is doing a great job," he said. But facing a difficult job to do and increasing violence, he added, the force can use additional "capacity" to defeat its attackers.

    The unrest in eastern Congo has been fueled by festering hatreds left over from the Rwandan genocide and the country's unrelenting civil wars. Renegade Gen. Laurent Nkunda has threatened to take Goma despite calls from the Security Council for him to respect a cease-fire brokered by the U.N. in January.

    Nkunda charges that the Congolese government has not protected his minority Tutsi tribe from a Rwandan Hutu militia that escaped to Congo after helping perpetrate the 1994 Rwandan genocide. Half a million Tutsis were slaughtered.

    Nkunda's ambitions have expanded since he launched a fresh onslaught on Aug. 28. He now declares he will "liberate" all of Congo, a country the size of Western Europe with vast reserves of diamonds, gold and other resources. Congo's vast mineral wealth helped fuel back-to-back wars from 1997 to 2003.

    The U.N. says more than 200,000 people have been forced from their homes in the last two months, joining 1.2 million displaced in previous conflicts in the east. Outbreaks of cholera and diarrhea have killed dozens in camps, compounding the misery.

    On Monday, peacekeepers in attack helicopters fired at the rebels trying to stop them taking Kibumba, a village on the main road 30 miles north of Goma. But fleeing civilians say the fighters overran Kibumba anyway.

    The rebels retaliated by firing a missile at one U.N. combat helicopter Monday, but missed, van den Wildenberg said.

    U.N. efforts to halt Nkunda's rebellion are complicated by the country's rugged terrain, dense tropical forests that roll over hills and mountains with few roads.

    The chief U.N. mandate is to protect the population. But since the peace deal it also is supposed to help the Congolese army disarm and repatriate Hutu militiamen — by force if necessary.

    But Bisimwa, the rebel spokesman, claimed Tuesday the Congolese army has abandoned dozens of its positions to Hutu militiamen.

    "It's the Hutus who are on the front line and whom we are fighting, not the army," he said. U.N. peacekeepers "leave us no choice but to fight on."

    Nkunda long has charged that Congolese soldiers fight alongside the militia of Hutus, an ethnic majority of about 40 percent in the region.

    Some 800 Hutu militiamen have voluntarily returned to Rwanda, the U.N. says, but the fighters recruit and coerce Congolese Hutu children and young men into their ranks daily — far outnumbering those who have returned home.
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    Grim.
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    • #3
      Hell yes, grim. These are people. We have it so made, and so many don't even realize it.
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      • #4
        Yes, that's very true. Accident of birth.
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        • #5
          At least a UN peacekeeping force somewhere finally grabbed its nuts and shot at somebody. I doubt they'll have much success if they remain on the defensive tho...
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          • #6
            It is about the worst place in the world and its up agianst soem stiff competition
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            • #7
              Originally posted by SlowwHand
              Hell yes, grim. These are people. We have it so made, and so many don't even realize it.
              QFT.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
                At least a UN peacekeeping force somewhere finally grabbed its nuts and shot at somebody. I doubt they'll have much success if they remain on the defensive tho...
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                • #9
                  Have the USAF conduct carpet bombing. Done deal. Get those starving-ass pirates while they're there.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                  • #10
                    This conflict is a serious cluster****, but Kabila is probably the key to end the onslaught.

                    The problem here is that the Hutu FDLR militia--that is doing most of the raping and pillaging--was expulsed from Rwanda and is still at large in North-Kivu. Kagame supports Nkunda in fighting this militia as they're both Tutsi. Kabila on the other hand offers covert support to FDLR in order to contain Kagame's sphere of influence in Eastern Congo, a region that is hardly under government control. So the FDLR are a useful tool for Kabila in this respect.

                    A few years ago iirc Nkunda and Kabila signed an agreement to end hostilities on the condition that Kabila cut off his support to FDLR. Regrettably Kabila has broken this promise and this gives Nkunda a somewhat legitimate casus belli.

                    I would argue for the dispatchment of a quick emergency unit of the UN with a clear mandate to create a buffer zone between the two sides, and secondly strong diplomatic pressure on Kabila. This could even prove worthwhile for him, because he would gain significant international respect as a peace builder.
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                    • #11
                      Your country (such as mine,and others) already "helped" Africa
                      enough.
                      Perhaps now is the time to let these people live their lives as they
                      want.
                      And to teach them peace we must learn it first.
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                      • #12
                        If they live their lives as they want, then war ensues immediately. Fact of the matter is that they still don't have strong states who can control and subdue militias. And they're tremendously corrupt too.

                        They need all the help they can get, really. It's a freakin tragedy out there. Millions of people have died in Congo over the past years, and nobody gives a damn. Everyone keeps on whining about 9/11 and that retarded ****, but that's peanuts compared to the savagery out there in the Congo. It's a downright outrage.
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                        • #13
                          I care. I started a thread about it.
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                          • #14
                            Why should we care these people can't move beyond their petty tribal struggles to do something productive? It's up to the Congolese people to forge their own destiny and build their own nation. Foreign humanitarian intervention does not work in Africa.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Traianvs
                              This conflict is a serious cluster****, but Kabila is probably the key to end the onslaught.

                              The problem here is that the Hutu FDLR militia--that is doing most of the raping and pillaging--was expulsed from Rwanda and is still at large in North-Kivu. Kagame supports Nkunda in fighting this militia as they're both Tutsi. Kabila on the other hand offers covert support to FDLR in order to contain Kagame's sphere of influence in Eastern Congo, a region that is hardly under government control. So the FDLR are a useful tool for Kabila in this respect.

                              A few years ago iirc Nkunda and Kabila signed an agreement to end hostilities on the condition that Kabila cut off his support to FDLR. Regrettably Kabila has broken this promise and this gives Nkunda a somewhat legitimate casus belli.

                              I would argue for the dispatchment of a quick emergency unit of the UN with a clear mandate to create a buffer zone between the two sides, and secondly strong diplomatic pressure on Kabila. This could even prove worthwhile for him, because he would gain significant international respect as a peace builder.
                              I'm hardly a fan of Kabila but it's hard to see how he could control the FLDR even if he really desired to. The state is a fiction in eastern Congo. They can't even transfer their troops there without outside help.
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