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    The Real Scandal

    By BOB HERBERT
    Published: October 20, 2008
    It never ends. The Republican Party never gets tired of spraying its poison across the American political landscape.

    So there was a Republican congresswoman from Minnesota, Michele Bachmann, telling Chris Matthews on MSNBC that the press should start investigating members of the House and Senate to determine which ones are “pro-America or anti-America.”

    Can a rancid Congressional committee be far behind? Leave it to a right-wing Republican to long for those sunny, bygone days of political witch-hunting.

    Ms. Bachmann’s demented desire (“I would love to see an exposé like that”) is of a piece with the G.O.P.’s unrelenting effort to demonize its opponents, to characterize them as beyond the pale, different from ordinary patriotic Americans — and not just different, but dangerous, and even evil.

    But the party is not content to stop there. Even better than demonizing opponents is the more powerful and direct act of taking the vote away from their opponents’ supporters. The Republican Party has made strenuous efforts in recent years to prevent Democrats from voting, and to prevent their votes from being properly counted once they’ve been cast.

    Which brings me to the phony Acorn scandal.

    John McCain, who placed his principles in a blind trust once the presidential race heated up, warned the country during the presidential debate last week that Acorn, which has been registering people to vote by the hundreds of thousands, was “on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history.”

    It turns out that a tiny percentage of these new registrations are bogus, with some of them carrying ludicrous names like Mickey Mouse. Republicans have tried to turn this into a mighty oak of a scandal, with Mr. McCain thundering at the debate that it “may be destroying the fabric of democracy.”

    Please. The Times put the matter in perspective when it said in an editorial that Acorn needs to be more careful with some aspects of its voter-registration process. It needs to do a better job selecting canvassers, among other things.

    “But,” the editorial added, “for all of the McCain campaign’s manufactured fury about vote theft (and similar claims from the Republican Party over the years) there is virtually no evidence — anywhere in the country, going back many elections — of people showing up at the polls and voting when they are not entitled to.”

    Two important points need to be made here. First, the reckless attempt by Senator McCain, Sarah Palin and others to fan this into a major scandal has made Acorn the target of vandals and a wave of hate calls and e-mail. Acorn staff members have been threatened and sickening, murderous comments have been made about supporters of Barack Obama. (Senator Obama had nothing to do with Acorn’s voter-registration drives.)

    Second, when it comes to voting, the real threat to democracy is the nonstop campaign by the G.O.P. and its supporters to disenfranchise American citizens who have every right to cast a ballot. We saw this in 2000. We saw it in 2004. And we’re seeing it again now.

    In Montana, the Republican Party challenged the registrations of thousands of legitimate voters based on change-of-address information available from the Post Office. These specious challenges were made — surprise, surprise — in Democratic districts. Answering the challenges would have been a wholly unnecessary hardship for the voters, many of whom were students or members of the armed forces.

    In the face of widespread public criticism (even the Republican lieutenant governor weighed in), the party backed off.

    That sort of thing is widespread. In one politically crucial state after another — in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, you name it — the G.O.P. has unleashed foot soldiers whose insidious mission is to make the voting process as difficult as possible — or, better yet, impossible — for citizens who are believed to favor Democrats.

    For Senator McCain to flip reality on its head and point to an overwhelmingly legitimate voter-registration effort as a “threat to the fabric of democracy” is a breathtaking exercise in absurdity.

    Miles Rapoport, a former Connecticut secretary of state who is now president of Demos, a public policy group, remarked on the irony of elected Republican officials deliberately attempting to thwart voting. Some years ago, he said, he “and all the other secretaries of state” would bemoan the lack of interest in voting, especially among the young and the poor.

    Now, he said, with the explosion of voter registration and the heightened interest in the presidential campaign, you’d think officials “would welcome that, and encourage it, and even celebrate it.” Instead, he said, in so many cases, G.O.P. officials are “trying to pare down the lists.”
    Doesn't end there. People in 6 separate counties across the country have reported early votes on electronic machines flipping their vote from Obama to McCain in front of their faces. The machines that caused so much trouble in previous elections may now account for over 80% of the vote in some states. And the GOP has tried other evil tactics like disqualifying people from voting b/c they couldn't verify their addresses- people whose 'crime' was having their house foreclosed.

    The only bright side in this is the GOP's attempt to demonize ACORN has resulted in two arrests- both republican attempts at voter fraud.
    I'm consitently stupid- Japher
    I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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    ACORN is good people. Shame on the repugs.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • #3
      You can't post an Obama sign on your yard around here, they get torn down immediately. I've seen a few bumper stickers. I guess they know better than to mess with a man's wheels.
      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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      • #4
        You could slather Vaseline and that hot powder (I forget the name, some type of spice) on the signs to either prevent theft or at least discourage it. One person I know has suggested (and I strongly advise AGAINST) attaching small staples to the edges, pointy tips outward. It's one thing to cause discomfort (particularly in a way that is used to break someone of the fingernail-biting habit), it's wholly another to draw blood.
        The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

        The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DRoseDARs
          You could slather Vaseline and that hot powder (I forget the name, some type of spice) on the signs to either prevent theft or at least discourage it. One person I know has suggested (and I strongly advise AGAINST) attaching small staples to the edges, pointy tips outward. It's one thing to cause discomfort (particularly in a way that is used to break someone of the fingernail-biting habit), it's wholly another to draw blood.
          You don't want to poke your fingers, don't **** with people's signs. I have no sympathy. I say hook the signs up to the electric grid. That'll teach sign-stealers.
          You've just proven signature advertising works!

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          • #6
            Wait until we reinstitute the poll tax.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #7
              Isn't the whole political sign thing stupid in the first place? I mean how many idiots vote for a person because they see his name on a sign?
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Seedle


                You don't want to poke your fingers, don't **** with people's signs. I have no sympathy. I say hook the signs up to the electric grid. That'll teach sign-stealers.
                A court of law and a jury of your peers will have similar feelings towards you if someone is injured as a result of such guerrilla tactics. This isn't about the assh*le getting injured for f*cking with another peoples' signs, it's about him suing them as a result. F*ck him, he got what he deserved, unfortunately he'll think he deserves more ... coming straight out of your wallet.
                The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand
                  Wait until we reinstitute the poll tax.

                  Why am I not surprise you don't taking voters' rights seriously?
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #10
                    Re: G.O.P. attempts to suppress voters (again)

                    Originally posted by Theben
                    The Real Scandal

                    By BOB HERBERT
                    Published: October 20, 2008
                    It never ends. The Republican Party never gets tired of spraying its poison across the American political landscape.
                    well THIS certainly looks like a way to start up a neutral and an objective, purely fact-based and non-partisan news article!

                    PS: thanks for providing a link so we know you're quoting a reliable media source.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DRoseDARs


                      A court of law and a jury of your peers will have similar feelings towards you if someone is injured as a result of such guerrilla tactics. This isn't about the assh*le getting injured for f*cking with another peoples' signs, it's about him suing them as a result. F*ck him, he got what he deserved, unfortunately he'll think he deserves more ... coming straight out of your wallet.
                      That's part of what's wrong with this country

                      I suspect in some states you could shoot him for tresspassing if you caught him in the act and get away with it though. Then again, I also suspect those are the states that Obama has no chance of winning. .
                      "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
                      -Joan Robinson

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                      • #12
                        Yeah, sure you can shoot him in the face but you can't put nails in the back of the sign to poke him in the fingers or you will get sued.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by VJ
                          well THIS certainly looks like a way to start up a neutral and an objective, purely fact-based and non-partisan news article!
                          That would be because it's an op-ed piece based on previous news articles.

                          PS: thanks for providing a link so we know you're quoting a reliable media source.




                          You're welcome.
                          I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                          I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DRoseDARs


                            A court of law and a jury of your peers will have similar feelings towards you if someone is injured as a result of such guerrilla tactics. This isn't about the assh*le getting injured for f*cking with another peoples' signs, it's about him suing them as a result. F*ck him, he got what he deserved, unfortunately he'll think he deserves more ... coming straight out of your wallet.
                            Okay, so some ***** comes on MY land to mess with MY property and I'M responsible if bad things happen?

                            RUSSIA, CHINA: NUKE US NOW!

                            **** this country.
                            You've just proven signature advertising works!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Seedle


                              Okay, so some ***** comes on MY land to mess with MY property and I'M responsible if bad things happen?

                              RUSSIA, CHINA: NUKE US NOW!

                              **** this country.
                              You must live in the non-American parts of America.

                              btw, this isn't exactly new (what you referenced).
                              I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                              I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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