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  • Originally posted by Kidicious
    Can I buy a futures contract to sell oil at that price or not?
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    • You can't seem to make up your mind whether you're talking about a future or a binary option, nor whether it is an American or a European option.

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      • Originally posted by Kidicious
        Do you even understand what a futures contract is? Or why it has relatively little to do with predicting a 52 week low?
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        • I intend to show why it is relevent, now answer the question.
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          • The self pwnage by Kid is getting sad now .
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            • Kid, if you want to enter into a futures contract with a price of 60$/bbl settlement price to be declared based on NYMEX:CL settlement for Nov 09 on the last trading day of Oct 09 on a notional 1 bbl of oil (I take the long, you take the short, contract settles in cash) then I would be quite happy to. Only conditions are that you agree to send 60$ margin (I will too) to a mutually-acceptable party. I nominate Imran.

              I also would like to note that this is trusting you to pay up in the case that CL settles at >120$ bbl.
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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              • That offer expires in 30 minutes, by the way.
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
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                • I still don't know what that has to do with predicting a 52 week low, though. Or with a binary european option (other than tangentially, of course).

                  Poor kid doesn't know the difference between means, extrema and medians.

                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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                  • So, I know my expected value from this is ~8.60 (ignoring interest issues). Getting the variance in this would be a ***** to back out of the options markets, because I can't seem to get good quotes on Euro options for CL.
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                    • This would be a much better bet if you actually had a barrel of oil that Imran would have to hold for you

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                      • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                        I still don't know what that has to do with predicting a 52 week low, though.
                        Me: Don't want to say how low the price will go, eh?

                        You:

                        "I have no idea. I thought I'd already made that clear. The futures/options market thinks it knows. I can do a pretty good job of pulling that info out for you if you have a real reason to have it. "

                        Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about, and you just said that yourself.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                        • What the **** are you talking about, kid?



                          Do you want that futures contract or not? Not that it tells us anything about the 52 week low, DT
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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                          • Originally posted by Aeson
                            This would be a much better bet if you actually had a barrel of oil that Imran would have to hold for you

                            derivatives
                            Derivatives
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
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                            • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                              What the **** are you talking about, kid?
                              I have to spell everything out for you. I asked you to bet on the 52 week low 1 year from now. You said the futures market knows what the low will be. Now you're saying that's irrelevent.
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                              • You have 7 minutes left on that bid, by the way. Tick tock, tick tock
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