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    Jesus died for our sins again.


    Shark "Virgin Birth" Confirmed


    Sara Goudarzi
    for National Geographic News
    October 10, 2008

    A female blacktip shark in Virginia fertilized her own egg without mating with a male shark, new DNA evidence shows.

    This is the second time scientists have used DNA testing to verify shark parthenogenesis—the process that allows females of some species to produce offspring without sperm. (Read about the first time.)

    The female shark, dubbed Tidbit, died during a routine physical exam before the pregnancy was identified.

    A necropsy—an animal autopsy—after her death revealed she was carrying a near-term pup fetus that was about 12 inches (30 centimeters) in length.

    Tidbit was caught in the wild when she was very young and reached sexual maturity in a tank at the Virginia Aquarium in Virginia Beach, where she lived for eight years.

    "The interesting thing about that was there were no male blacktip sharks in the tank for the entire time of her captivity," said Demian Chapman, a researcher with the Institute for Ocean Conservation Science at Stony Brook University in New York.

    "So the question is, where does this baby come from?" he asked.

    Chapman is the lead author of a study on the female blacktip in the latest issue of the Journal of Fish Biology.

    DNA fingerprinting

    Chapman and his colleagues generated a DNA fingerprint for the mother shark and her pup fetus with a procedure identical to a human paternity test.

    Ordinarily, a shark's DNA contains some genetic material from its mother and some from its father. Tidbit's pup, however, was not ordinary.

    "Every part of the fingerprint of the embryo comes from the mother," Chapman said. "In other words, there is no genetic material from a father."

    All non-mammal vertebrate species are theoretically capable of parthenogenesis, scientists say. Examples have been documented in komodo dragons (read story), pythons, rattlesnakes, chickens, and turkeys.

    Parthenogenesis is not possible in humans because if all the genetic material comes from the mother, certain genes will be switched off, and the embryo won't develop.

    "For sharks in captivity, [parthenogenesis] has probably occurred more times than has been documented," says Robert Hueter, director of the Center for Shark Research at Mote Marine Laboratory in Sarasota, Florida.

    The question then becomes, is parthenogenesis a type of developmental anomaly or a response to the female shark not having a mate in captivity?

    "The fact that only one shark embryo was formed may suggest that this is more a case of an egg developmental aberration rather than a physiological response to the lack of a mate," said Hueter, who was not involved with the study.

    No Variation

    Normally, an embryo is formed when an egg containing half its chromosomes is fertilized by a sperm containing the other half.

    When an egg cell is formed, a plant or female animal also produces three other cells called polar bodies. In the type of parthenogenesis observed in sharks, one of those cells behaves like a sperm and fertilizes the egg.

    "But that cell is genetically identical to the egg," Chapman said. "So that's where you lose a lot of genetic variation."

    Offspring produced by parthenogenesis are not exact clones of their mothers, however, because the genetic material is mixed differently.

    Still, researchers believe the risk of congenital defects increases in animals whose DNA lack genetic variation.

    "There's an increased risk of having a weakened immune system and there's a risk of reproductive abnormalities," Chapman said. "But in some cases, they'll be able to survive."

    The scientists have not ruled out the possibility that increased stress from the abnormal pregnancy contributed to Tidbit's death.
    The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

    The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

  • #2
    "So the question is, where does this baby come from?" he asked.


    No, it's really not. We know exactly where this baby came from. The question is why - what triggered the parthenogenesis.

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    • #3
      I'm consitently stupid- Japher
      I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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      • #4
        "Hi, I'm Sharko? Son of Marco? My dad put his human penis inside my mom's shark vagina."
        "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
        "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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        • #5
          originally posted by Kuciwalker:
          No, it's really not. We know exactly where this baby came from. The question is why - what triggered the parthenogenesis.
          The devil put it there so that we might believe it is impossible for mutations and other freak accidents to occur, since this would enable the possibility of evolution.
          "The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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          • #6
            This is the second time scientists have used DNA testing to verify shark parthenogenesis—the process that allows females of some species to produce offspring without sperm. (Read about the first time.)
            I want to read about the first time
            "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
            ^ The Poly equivalent of:
            "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous


              I want to read about the first time
              Female Shark Reproduced Without Male DNA, Scientists Say -- May 2003
              The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

              The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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              • #8
                Sharks worldwide: - Hey, a little privacy if you don't mind!

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                • #9
                  The second coming is upon us and he's, he's...a shark?!
                  Speaking of Erith:

                  "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                  • #10
                    clear evidence that a victory for Obama will undermine traditional family values
                    Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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                    • #11
                      Parthenogenesis is not possible in humans because if all the genetic material comes from the mother, certain genes will be switched off, and the embryo won't develop.
                      ^ This puzzles me. Does it specifically mean that two eggs from the same parent female cannot develop into an embyro? Or that any two eggs from any two human females cannot develop into an embryo?

                      Part of my premise for a sci-fi story was that a society began fusing human eggs to produce the next generations. Is this practically impossible?
                      "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                      • #12
                        It may be a reference to epigenetics, in which case the problem would be from any two eggs, from the same female or different.

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                        • #13
                          In fact, work was done in the late 70's, early 80's to use a laser to warm and split a human egg, and success was reported on some of those cell pairs then creating blastocysts before the work was cutoff. Such a process could produce a viable baby without male intervention (parthenogenesis), we were told at the time. I am unaware of any reporting on genes being "turned off," this sounds very dubious.

                          Alinestra, nucleic material from one egg can be transferred to another egg in a way that will activate the receiving egg into going thru the fetus cyle. Since its nucleic DNA is from one person, but it mitochondrial RNA is from another, this child will genuinely have two female parents. Congress is riding hard herd on this experimentation in America. But ideas and science seldom yield to orthodox and archaic belief systems.
                          No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
                          "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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                          • #14
                            Okay, so my sci fi novel is not quite dead in the water yet, conceptually speaking. Nice.

                            (Ooh! Managed to work TWO pregnancy puns into one sentence. Booya!)
                            "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                            • #15
                              Pregnancy puns are not very naughty..

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