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Originally posted by DaShi
Where? I'd like to see that.
Where? I'd like to see that.
A strawman.
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It was the most hilarious 'discussion' I had in ages:
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WTF is Eventis?!Originally posted by Maniac
It was the most hilarious 'discussion' I had in ages:
And why do I need to register to read it?
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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Ow that sucks.Originally posted by DaShi
And why do I need to register to read it?
Hmm, perhaps I can ask if they wanna move the thread to the public spam forum. The administration there rarely acts upon a request of mine though.Comment
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Is he talking about our problem with inspecting imported food?Comment
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Alright giving babies formula with no nutritional value is a good weight loss formula but I figured the best wide spread weight loss formula was most wide spread during Mao's great Leap Forward. Starve to death tens if not hundreds of millions and you have a very effective weight loss program.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Don't even equate the two. America is orders of magnitude safer then China's haphazard system. No baby dies of nutrientionless formula in America (unless someone let Chinese formula into the country).Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut
What's there to discuss? China occasionally has problems with tainted food. So does America. At least people get fired in China because of it.
To compare it is an every day occurrence in the wild, wild east.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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That's good and helps produce more healthy and nutritious food from the same amount of land.Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut
I'm sure it will be fixed long before America's deliberate genetic modification of agricultural products ends.
Seriously, GM is sound science while deliberately poisoning people is just business as usual in China.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut
What's there to discuss? China occasionally has problems with tainted food. So does America. At least people get fired in China because of it.
RPT-New Zealand blew whistle on tainted China milk - PM
15 Sep 2008 03:30:32 GMT
Source: Reuters
(Fixes typo in first paragraph)
WELLINGTON, Sept 15 (Reuters) - Chinese officials failed to recall contaminated milk formula linked to the sickness of more than 400 babies and at least one death when asked by dairy giant Fonterra, New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark said on Monday.
Clark said local Chinese officials only acted when her government contacted the Chinese government in Beijing.
Sanlu Group, a milk powder producer 43 percent owned by New Zealand based Fonterra, was ordered to halt production last week after a preliminary investigation found the chemical compound melamine in its powder was causing kidney stones in infants.
Fonterra, which has said it knew of the problem since August, had pressed for a full public recall of all affected products, but had been blocked, Clark said on Monday.
"They have been trying for weeks to get official recall and the local authorities in China would not do it," she told TVNZ.
"At a local level...I think the first inclination was to try and put a towel over it and deal with it without an official recall. That is never what we would do in New Zealand."
Chinese media first reported on Sept. 10 that babies had fallen ill after drinking the formula, and Sanlu on Sept. 11 issued a recall of any product made before Aug 6.
Clark said she was told of the problem on Sept. 5 and three days later New Zealand officials were ordered to bypass local officials and inform the Chinese government.
"As you can imagine when New Zealand government blew the whistle in Beijing a very heavy hand then descended on the local authorities," she said.
Sanlu had begun receiving customer complaints in March that babies' urine was discoloured and that some had been admitted to hospital, officials said.
It had investigated and recalled some products and sealed other contaminated powder, but had not reported to the government "for a considerable time," vice minister of health Gao Qiang said in a briefing on Saturday.
The Hebei provincial government only found out about the problem on Sept. 8, when it was informed by the government of Shijiazhuang, where Sanlu is headquartered, Gao said.
Farmers or dealers supplying milk to Sanlu may have diluted it with water and then added melamine, a substance used in plastics, fertilisers and cleaning products, to make the milk's protein level appear higher than it actually is.
Melamine was linked to deaths and illness of thousands of cats and dogs in the United States last year after it was added to pet food components exported from China.
Normally inert, it can trigger the formation of kidney stones in the presence of cyanuric acid.
In Taiwan, authorities have sealed all Sanlu milk powder products that have yet to be distributed to retailers. (Reporting by Gyles Beckford; Editing by Michael Perry and David Fox)BlahComment
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Good news. The Eu is moving to protect consumers from dangerous Chinese products.
In the long run this really is the only way to improve the situation. Hit Chinese companies on the bottom line until they start collectively regulating each other to stop the worst practices. Since China's government seems powerless to prevent this maybe market pressure can.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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EU protectionism. How typical.
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It's cuz they actually care about people hereOriginally posted by Naked Gents Rut
EU protectionism. How typical.
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EU: The Chinese are selling poison baby formula which is killing babies. Let's not let it be sold until it can be proven to be safe.
NGR: OMG! PROTECTIONISM!
Are you sure you're not UR?
Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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China's like the US in the late 1800s as far as food and product safety goes, although, to be fair, I've never heard of anybody in the US tainting food with deadly industrial chemicals on purpose. That's just sick. In the US, there were real political consequences to the problems.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Malomine has cropped up in Chinese foods before. Supposedly it is a cheap filler which is easy to get in China and so companies put it into foods in order to save money though it has no nutritional value and can cause health problems (like kidney stones). I definitely go out of my way not to buy Chinese made food or even health care or grooming items. Made in China is a sure sign of possible problems.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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UR was smarter. If that's saying anything.Originally posted by Oerdin
EU: The Chinese are selling poison baby formula which is killing babies. Let's not let it be sold until it can be proven to be safe.
NGR: OMG! PROTECTIONISM!
Are you sure you're not UR?
“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"Comment
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