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  • #16
    But you create them. Think of the children!
    I'm consitently stupid- Japher
    I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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    • #17
      Senator McCain tells it straight.

      Sen. McCain supports smoking cessation but doesn't like the idea of increasing a tax, suggesting it would send a message to smokers that they should smoke more in order to fund healthcare.


      Ironclad logic.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Theben
        But you create them. Think of the children!
        The children can make up their own minds
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #19
          No actually they won't. They'll just buy into the rock star mentality and vote for "THE ONE"
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #20
            Cartimandua?
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #21
              Rock Star > geriatrics. Can't argue facts.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #22
                Of course, this allows them not to have to think.
                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • #23
                  Thinking is overrated. The Republicans only had one thinker in their entire party, Rove, and look how well it works for them.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Asher
                    Thinking is overrated. The Republicans only had one thinker in their entire party, Rove, and look how well it works for them.
                    Well, they do keep getting elected and duping people into voting against their best interests...
                    B♭3

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MarkG
                      huh? what do they determine as spin and how do you measure it?
                      QFT. The OP sounds like a lot of horse**** to me.

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                      • #26
                        Yep, I'm sure it's propaganda by a right wing group so it has no value. (just because it makes McCain look better and that's not allowed when comparing to the "ONE")

                        Actually I don't doubt that.
                        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • #27
                          It's supposed to quantify "spin" but has no method of determining spin other than ipso facto statements by the yoyos who inventing this.

                          Watch this:

                          Truthiness Scale:

                          Satan: -10.0
                          Palin: -7.7
                          McCain: - 5.2
                          Biden: +6.5
                          Obama: +8.9
                          Jesus: +10.0
                          Are you impressed?? I thought not.

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                          • #28
                            As poor as the methodology probably was on the first one, I'm sure it was better that what was used on yours.

                            -10
                            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                            RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rah
                              As poor as the methodology probably was on the first one, I'm sure it was better that what was used on yours.

                              -10
                              Oh, if there was ANY methodology used at all in the first one, it is undoubtably better than mine. The key question is: Is the table in opening post based upon any methodology whatsoever?

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                              • #30
                                It's quite simple, the Democrats spin things to make them look better. The republicans just abandon reality altogether and lie outright! See... less spin.
                                "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
                                -Joan Robinson

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