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    I dont even have to add "aggressors" in the title to try to make this funny

    Turkish court bans Richard Dawkins website

    A Turkish court has banned internet users from viewing the official Richard Dawkins website after a Muslim creationist claimed its contents were defamatory and blasphemous.

    Adnan Oktar, who writes under the pen name of Harun Yahya, complained that Dawkins, a fierce critic of creationism and intelligent design, had insulted him in comments made on forums and blogs.

    According to Oktar's office, Istanbul's second criminal court of peace banned the site earlier this month on the grounds that it "violated" Oktar's personality.

    His press assistant, Seda Aral, said: "We are not against freedom of speech or expression but you cannot insult people.

    "We found the comments hurtful. It was not a scientific discussion. There was a line and the limit has been passed.

    "We have used all the legal means to stop this site. We asked them to remove the comments but they did not."

    Oktar, a household name in Turkey, has used hundreds of books, pamphlets and DVDS to contest Darwin's theory of evolution.

    In 2006 his publishers sent out 10,000 copies of the Atlas of Creation, a lavish 800-page rejection of evolution.

    Dawkins, one of the recipients, described the book as "preposterous". On his website the British biologist and popular science writer said he was at "a loss to reconcile the expensive and glossy production values of this book with the 'breathtaking inanity' of the content."

    It is the third time Oktar and his associates have succeeded in blocking sites in Turkey.

    In August 2007 Oktar persuaded a court to block access to WordPress.com. His lawyers argued that blogs on WordPress.com contained libelous material that the company was unwilling to remove.

    Last April, he made a libel complaint about Google Groups, which was subsequently blocked.

    He failed to ban Dawkins' book the God Delusion in Turkey after a court rejected his claims that it insulted religion.


    A Turkish court has banned internet users from viewing the official Richard Dawkins website after a Muslim creationist claimed its contents were defamatory and blasphemous
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  • #2
    It's Turkey, who the **** cares about Turkey? Well, Maybe the US, but otehr than that?
    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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    • #3
      Mark, you are mistaken if you believe there is anything remotely funny in your use of the word "aggressors".

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      • #4
        I dont think we should take an englishman's word on what is funny or not....
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        • #5
          Reestablish Byzantium.
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          • #6
            Ataturk rolls in his grave.
            urgh.NSFW

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            • #7
              Yeah, Ataturk FTW.

              Well, I bet Dawkins loves it, because this is the case of bad press being good for you.
              In da butt.
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              • #8
                I'm really not sure how The God Delusion does NOT insult religion, but whatever.
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                • #9
                  And for the record, while I'm a science guy, I think I'm an actual scientists... I mean heck, I am, by the very definition... Dawkins is still an obnoxious *******. He's just the guy you want to punch in the face. He comes to your face and starts with his rambling, and then you say OK, fair enough, I'd like you to leave me alone now and he'll come with a "no", because somehow it is exactly the reason why he has to be in your face and that it is your own fault.

                  Obnoxious person, I don't like him at all. If he means to fix things between the realtionship of science and religion, well... he's not the one for the job. He is kind of militant. And then he blames militants on the religious side. Kind of ironic.
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                  • #10
                    That's the thing, he doesn't want to "fix the relationship." He's part of an emerging group of jerkoff atheists who want religion to be gone, period. There's him, Christopher Hitchens, Eric Harris and probably a few others I don't know of. But if we survived Diocletian and Stalin, we can survive pansies like them.
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                    • #11
                      Right. And he acts like a douche. There's no excuses acting like a douche. He is quite irritating, very self righteous and militant. I wouldn't want to have a beer with him.
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                      • #12
                        This is what's wrong with religion. And before you say "That's just a bunch of Muslims", believe me, there are plenty of Christians that would be perfectly happy banning Dawkins, because after all, why does anyone need anything other than "Truth"? Rights are much less important than "Truth" in the long run, so shouldn't we teach people "Truth" and ban everything else? I personally know plenty of Christians like that. I'm even related to some.
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                        • #13
                          No, it's what's wrong with the human race. It's just that religion's had most of the power throughout human history so people tend to confuse things. If you ever succeed in driving superstitions like mine out of existence without resorting to vast atrocities, the newly enlightened human race will go on to persecute...oh, I don't know. Communists, maybe, or capitalists, depending who's in charge. People who object to modifying the human genome, or people who don't. People who earn too little, people who earn too much, people who look funny, people from the wrong country. It's hard to tell with the future, but I can say that mass graves are in the cards no matter which way we go.

                          Actually, that'll happen even if you do resort to vast atrocities, and the vast atrocities scenario strikes me as far more likely. I'm just saying you're hosed in any case.
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                          • #14
                            Maybe, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't combat that which is the immediate excuse for people oppressing each other.

                            That's like saying we shouldn't support Israel against Iran. I mean, it doesn't really matter because even if Iran wipes out Israel they'll just find someone else to destroy. Right?
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                            • #15
                              Isn't a little odd that Europe is getting uppity over people banning books and websites given the activities of Germany, France, and others?
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