Should children be trained in combat and fighting?

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
I think the notion that enforced studying of martial arts would make people disciplined is crap.

I think you may be misunderstanding or misusing the term disciplined

1. training to act in accordance with rules; drill: military discipline.
2. activity, exercise, or a regimen that develops or improves a skill; training: A daily stint at the typewriter is excellent discipline for a writer.
3. punishment inflicted by way of correction and training.
4. the rigor or training effect of experience, adversity, etc.: the harsh discipline of poverty.
5. behavior in accord with rules of conduct; behavior and order maintained by training and control: good discipline in an army.
6. a set or system of rules and regulations.
7. Ecclesiastical. the system of government regulating the practice of a church as distinguished from its doctrine.
8. an instrument of punishment, esp. a whip or scourge, used in the practice of self-mortification or as an instrument of chastisement in certain religious communities.
9. a branch of instruction or learning: the disciplines of history and economics.
–verb (used with object) 10. to train by instruction and exercise; drill.
11. to bring to a state of order and obedience by training and control.
12. to punish or penalize in order to train and control; correct; chastise.

With that being shared, I would say that forced martial arts training should not be used with children at all


But for the record, a true martial artis is most definetly disciplined

[Dinner]

Should children be trained to fight in India? Yes, there are all those barbaric Hindus around trying to burn alive train loads of people.

[Heresson]

Re: Should children be trained in combat and fighting?

Yes, but only against the hindu Indians

[Grandpa Troll]

I would like to say my views are tainted by an American born and bred individual.

I dont know about different cultures, my eyes are also tainted by the view of my grandchildren which pains me to think what they may end up having to experience.

My son grw up with me hard on his case preparing him for life, his mother had not seen attrocities I have experienced from childhood abuse and adolescent hazing to the point of pain and trauma.

He is now an 8 year member of Law Enforcement, yo8ungest member ever on our County SWAT Team and his current billet is that of a Detective.

I share because I did try to prepare him physically and mentally for life.

But cant imagine him being "forced" or perhaps the better descriptive would be subjugated unto training in the detailed outlay of the OP?

Having lost the innocence of childhood myself and all that it brought (hard lifes lessons and baggage) causes me pain to know that children do have to fend as detailed in OP by virtue of their lifes location.


So in attemppting to quantify my answer, it indeed may be of necessity and that is just how life is, sometimes it just plain and simple Sucks

[DaShi]

I'm sorry to hear that you're tainted Gramps.

[Riesstiu IV]

This most recent generation of American children are fat, retarded little sh*ts for the most part. Might as well do something so they are actually worthwhile.

Edit: Hindus suck.

[Kidlicious]

Re: Should children be trained in combat and fighting?

Originally posted by aneeshm
Secondly, the effect on the nature of the citizenry. Fighting and combat inculcate, at the tip of the sword, the values of self-reliance, independence, and the respect and camaraderie of the strong. These are the fundamental values necessary in today's world.

Either you've never been in the military or you are nuts. You are not independent in the military. The military is pure authoritarian. When they say jump you say how high.

What a horrible suggestion, but I'm not suprised to hear it come from you.

[Zero]

Originally posted by onodera

2. It might prove useful later in life when some junkie decides to pawn your mobile phone.

those junkies got the same discipline when they were young though!

[Zero]

Re: Re: Should children be trained in combat and fighting?

Originally posted by Kidicious


Either you've never been in the military or you are nuts. You are not independent in the military. The military is pure authoritarian. When they say jump you say how high.

What a horrible suggestion, but I'm not suprised to hear it come from you.

haha true.

but first time i jumped i wanted to say " **** i changed my mind! "

[aneeshm]

Re: Re: Should children be trained in combat and fighting?

Originally posted by Kidicious

Either you've never been in the military or you are nuts. You are not independent in the military. The military is pure authoritarian. When they say jump you say how high.

Well, then, model it on aristocratic instead of military training.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Should children be trained to fight in India? Yes, there are all those barbaric Hindus around trying to burn alive train loads of people.

You got that one backwards.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll


I think you may be misunderstanding or misusing the term disciplined

1. training to act in accordance with rules; drill: military discipline.
2. activity, exercise, or a regimen that develops or improves a skill; training: A daily stint at the typewriter is excellent discipline for a writer.
3. punishment inflicted by way of correction and training.
4. the rigor or training effect of experience, adversity, etc.: the harsh discipline of poverty.
5. behavior in accord with rules of conduct; behavior and order maintained by training and control: good discipline in an army.
6. a set or system of rules and regulations.
7. Ecclesiastical. the system of government regulating the practice of a church as distinguished from its doctrine.
8. an instrument of punishment, esp. a whip or scourge, used in the practice of self-mortification or as an instrument of chastisement in certain religious communities.
9. a branch of instruction or learning: the disciplines of history and economics.
–verb (used with object) 10. to train by instruction and exercise; drill.
11. to bring to a state of order and obedience by training and control.
12. to punish or penalize in order to train and control; correct; chastise.

With that being shared, I would say that forced martial arts training should not be used with children at all


But for the record, a true martial artis is most definetly disciplined

Thanks for all the heroically pointless waffle, but enforcing people to participate in a hobby that uses a form of discipline does not necessarily result in the participants themselves being disciplined, does it?

That's the pitfall of pedantry. It allows one to spout forth reams of piffle that may be technically accurate, but still leaves one looking like a pillock. Go hang your head in shame.

[GePap]

No.

They should be trained in thinking and imagining.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp



Thanks for all the heroically pointless waffle, but enforcing people to participate in a hobby that uses a form of discipline does not necessarily result in the participants themselves being disciplined, does it?

That's the pitfall of pedantry. It allows one to spout forth reams of piffle that may be technically accurate, but still leaves one looking like a pillock. Go hang your head in shame.

I'm sure he would be insulted if you used words that weren't regional.

ACK!

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Well, I'm sure he'll soon be pointing out that, as I used words that may be considered insulting, he is, technically speaking, insulted, regardless of his actual feelings in the matter. And then we can quote definitions to each other until our jaws fall off.