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  • Originally posted by GePap

    That said, we still have two months to go, more importantly, the debates are coming.
    Sadly redneck Texan chimpansee Bush came through these debates against Kerry in 2004... Why would a decent guy like McCain do any worse?
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    • Originally posted by dannubis


      Sadly redneck Texan chimpansee Bush came through these debates against Kerry in 2004... Why would a decent guy like McCain do any worse?
      McCain might be better than Bush, but Obama is certainly better than Kerry in terms of presentation.
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      • Originally posted by GePap
        but Obama is certainly better than Kerry in terms of presentation.
        YA THINK.

        A very charismatic speaker vs. a rock.
        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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        • Originally posted by GePap
          McCain might be better than Bush, but Obama is certainly better than Kerry in terms of presentation.
          How do you explain Obama's performance at Saddleback?
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          • Originally posted by DinoDoc
            How do you explain Obama's performance at Saddleback?
            (a) McCain listened to the questions being asked of Obama. Obama was answer cold.

            (b) Obama got too erudite. McCain's responses were much more bumperstickerish. American people like over simplified answers to hard questions.

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            • Originally posted by Zkribbler
              (a) McCain listened to the questions being asked of Obama. Obama was answer cold.
              I was really hoping for an answer that didn't include whining especially without evidence.
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              • (a) McCain listened to the questions being asked of Obama. Obama was answer cold.


                In any case, the better litmus test was the Democratic primary debates where Obama did poorly, but Biden did very well (IMO). I say McCain takes Obama, and Biden takes Palin.
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                • Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs [yesterday], the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." The companies, as McClatchy reported, "aren't taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization."

                  Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.

                  "You would like to think that someone who is going to be vice president and conceivable president would know what Fannie and Freddie do," said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. "These are huge institutions and they are absolutely central to our country's mortgage debt. To not have a clue what they do doesn't speak well for her, I'd say."

                  Added Andrew Jakabovics, an economic analysts for the progressive think tank, Center for American Progress: "It is somewhat nonsensical because up until yesterday there was sort of no public funding there. Even today they haven't drawn down any of the credit line they have given to Treasury. 'Gotten too big and too expensive' are two separate things. The too big has been a conservative mantra for a while and there is something to be said of that in that they hold about half of the mortgage guarantees that are out there. And in the last year they have been responsible for roughly 80 percent out there. The 'too expensive to tax payers,' I don't know where that comes from."



                  So you've got complete ignorance of housing policy amidst a nationalization. No wonder the McCain camp tried to delay any interviews for as long as possible. This might have legs, but I don't have any confidence in the media regarding scrutiny of Palin.
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                  • Originally posted by Zkribbler
                    (b) Obama got too erudite.
                    This is why McCain will win. Most americans sadly wouldn't even know what that means.

                    The longer Obama talks, the more he sounds condescending. (I refuse to say he sounds uppity)
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                    • Originally posted by rah
                      This is why McCain will win. Most americans sadly wouldn't even know what that means.
                      It's sad when being too intelligent and well educated are disqualifiers to be President. You'd have thought we'd have learned from electing Bush.

                      McCain graduated 894th in his class of 899.

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                      • Originally posted by Zkribbler
                        (b) Obama got too erudite. McCain's responses were much more bumperstickerish. American people like over simplified answers to hard questions.
                        Obama got too glib. His "above my pay grade" answer was horrid.
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                        • Originally posted by rah
                          YA THINK.

                          A very charismatic speaker vs. a rock.
                          No, rocks have more personality than Kerry. He was more of an old, worn-out rag.
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                          • I don't think Americans are against smart people, but I think one of the guidelines for being considered smart is not making the electorate feel that they're stupid.

                            And yes, I apologize for insulting rocks.
                            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                            RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                              Obama got too glib. His "above my pay grade" answer was horrid.
                              QFYMFT. The worst answer given to any question in a political setting EVER!

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                              • McCain should match up well against Obama in the debates. Obama is great at setpiece speechs but performs less well in situations that require him to think and formulate answers on the spot. The opposite is true of McCain.

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