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  • #46
    I dunno. If Bush was really that unpopular, even Kerry shouldn't have had a hard time winning.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Zkribbler


      Bah! No one said anything about an oak panneled room, sipping fine whiskey and smokings cigars??
      Hmmm, wonder how tough it would be to get oak paneling to the phils.

      Besides that, rum is better than whiskey and the cigars are pretty good there.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Kontiki

        At the risk of sounding too much like Agathon, it might also be a testament to the voters of your country.
        Oh, there's definitely a kernel of truth there.

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        • #49
          One thing I've never gotten about the Democrats, is the sentiment behind the book What's the Matter with Kansas and the statement Arrian just agreed to. Why is it seen as a failiure (moral or what have you) on the public's part to fall in line with the liberal message put foward and not the failiure of those delivering the message?
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          • #50
            I could give you my take on it, but I think it would be better answered by an American.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by GePap


              It's not an issue of being "well known." McCain has never been much of a leader in the Republican Party, certainly not in the Senate.


              You buffoon. He is easily one of the top 5 most influential and active members of the senate. Get a clue. Keep on trying in vain to have sex with the pizza guy as seen in 70's pornos. Your line about the pepperoni being in your pants is more effective than the lies you spew here.

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              • #52
                Dino, I don't think you've read the book.

                The thesis is that the conservative movement deftly shifted definition of the elite from being based on wealth to cultural heterodoxy, then redirected populist anger at this new elite. And that the left needs to offer a better refutation, in both messaging and policy contrasts.
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                • #53
                  Hey, that's actually a rather plausible theory. The title had me thinking that the answer to its question was another "they believe in JEBUS lol!" or something.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Lancer


                    Hmmm, wonder how tough it would be to get oak paneling to the phils.
                    Naw. Mohogony.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Kontiki
                      I dunno. If Bush was really that unpopular, even Kerry shouldn't have had a hard time winning.
                      I suspect that, due to being more in tune with him politically, you are unaware of the immense lameness vibes he gave off to moderates. The man had the personality of a dead goldfish; not so much a man as a package of positions carefully selected to not-offend just enough people to get him into the White House. I voted for him because I figured, hey, better a worthless nobody who probably won't do anything with the office than a lunatic who thinks he has a divine right to drop bombs on people. But I was definitely a member of Kerry-Haters For Kerry.

                      EDIT: Well, maybe I shouldn't have said "to moderates" so much as "to me."
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Zkribbler


                        Naw. Mohogony.
                        I already have the bar top waiting. Center cut mohogany tree almost two feet across and 18' long.
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                        • #57
                          Mahogany. Mohogany is like Mohair or something... :ewww:
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by snoopy369
                            Mahogany. Mohogany is like Mohair or something... :ewww:
                            Damn! I had it right then changed it because it didn't look right. Poly needs a built-in spell check.

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                            • #59
                              I can't spell worth a damn, I trusted Zkrib's spelling.

                              Oh well, we can cry in our drinks on a very fine bar top.
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                              • #60
                                Zkrib, can you buy grapefruit tree seeds there in LA?
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