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  • #16
    Originally posted by Zkribbler


    Then give them money in spirit.
    Well, they are supposedly not really asking for the money, just for the 'good name'. So, perhaps this is not so inaccurate...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Oerdin
      How could they be descended from Crusaders when the Templars took a vow of chastity?
      As already said before:
      chastity /= no sex
      chastity = accepted sexual behavior, according to a given moral system
      Chastity for single person, within RCC moral system = no sex
      Chastity for married person, within RCC moral system = sex only with your wife/husband and only in order to have children (not just for pleasure).

      So, if the templars had no obligation to stay single, they could perfectly marry and have 'chaste' sexual relation - in order to have children - with their wives.
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      • #18
        Those Crusaders sure did know how to build a castle though. It's pushing 900 years later and their castles are still looking good.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dry

          As already said before:
          chastity /= no sex
          chastity = accepted sexual behavior, according to a given moral system
          Chastity for single person, within RCC moral system = no sex
          Chastity for married person, within RCC moral system = sex only with your wife/husband and only in order to have children (not just for pleasure).

          So, if the templars had no obligation to stay single, they could perfectly marry and have 'chaste' sexual relation - in order to have children - with their wives.
          Yeah, except they couldn't married and if married they had to renounce their families and all worldly possessions before joining the militant monastic order?
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          • #20
            It looks much nicer in spring time.

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            • #21
              It's to bad the muslims tore down the castle at acre as it was supposed to be the best damn castle in the world. I believe it too since it was the last Crusader Castle to fall. It was built on an island in the med just off the coast of Lebanon and connected to the mainland by a narrow causeway with a draw bridge. It even had ship harbors on the east side so it could be resupplied by sea. It took decades for the Jihadis to take it.

              That's why they took down it's walls after it surrendered. It was just to god damned well designed because even a few men could hold it indefinitely.
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              • #22
                how much does this castle cost?
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                • #23
                  Probably several hundred "pastures, mills and other commercial ventures," or its modern equivalent. Just call it five million Euros, I guess.

                  EDIT: note that I know nothing of Middle Eastern property values, the wages for skilled labor in the area, or even WTF a Euro is worth (beyond "more than a dollar"). So my estimate is basically worthless.
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