Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

US heading for record $490 billion budget deficit.

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • US heading for record $490 billion budget deficit.

    And that $490 billion doesn't even count the whole cost of the war in Iraq. Last year Democrats forced the White House to include the whole cost of the war in his budget projections (better half a decade late then never) but this year's budget deficit is so massive they're once again fudging the accounting in ways which would get a CEO sent to prison.

    It's an election year so you'd expect the budget deficit to go up but strangely the only election related gimmick was the $130 billion bipartisan "stimulus package" which gave a $600 welfare check to everyone. The big problem is the economy sucks and tax receipts are much lower then expected.

    Record 2009 deficit - White House
    White House blames economic slowdown and stimulus payments to 130 million households as budget deficit headed to nearly half-trillion dollars.

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The next president will inherit a record budget deficit of $482 billion, according to a new Bush administration estimate released Monday.

    The administration said the deficit was being driven to an all-time high by the sagging economy and the stimulus payments being made to 130 million households in an effort to keep the country from falling into a deep recession.

    But the numbers could go even higher if the economy performs worse than the White House predicts.
    Inflation outlook

    The budget office predicts the economy will grow at a rate of 1.6% this year and will rebound to a 2.2% growth rate next year. That's a half percentage point more than predicted by the widely cited "blue chip" consensus of leading economists. The administration also sees inflation averaging 3.8% this year, but easing to 2.3% next year - better than the 3% seen by the blue chip panel.

    "The nation's economy has continued to expand and remains fundamentally resilient," said the budget office report.

    A $482 billion deficit, however, would easily surpass the record deficit of $413 billion set in 2004.

    The new figure actually underestimates the deficit, since it leaves out about $80 billion in war costs. In a break from tradition - and in violation of new mandates from Congress - the White House did not include its full estimate of war costs.
    A jump from early forecast

    The White House in February had forecast that next year's deficit would be $407 billion, which puts the increase in the projections at $72 billion.

    Figures for the 2008 budget year ending Sept. 30 will actually drop from an earlier projection of $410 billion to $389 billion, the report said.

    The White House still projects that the budget will reach a surplus by 2012, helped by revenues boosted by optimistic economic projections of economic growth.

    The deficit numbers for 2008 and 2009 represent about 3% of the size of the economy, which is the measure seen as most relevant by economists. That's considerably smaller than the deficits of the 1980s and early 1990s, when Congress and earlier administrations cobbled together politically painful deficit-reduction packages.
    Pressure on tax-cutting measures

    Still, the new figures are so eye-popping in dollar terms that it may restrain the appetite of the next president to add to it with expensive spending programs or new tax cuts. In fact, pressure may build to allow some tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003 to expire as scheduled at the end of 2010, with Congress also feeling pressure to curb spending growth.

    The deficit for 2007 totaled $161.5 billion, which represented the lowest amount of red ink since an imbalance of $159 billion in 2002. The 2002 performance marked the first budget deficit after four consecutive years of budget surpluses.

    That stretch of budget surpluses represented a period when the country's finances had been bolstered by a 10-year period of uninterrupted economic growth, the longest period of expansion in U.S. history.

    In his first year in office, helped considerably by projections of continuing surpluses, Bush drove through a 10-year, $1.35 trillion package of tax cuts.

    However, the country fell into a recession in March 2001 and government spending to fight the war on terrorism contributed to pushing the deficit to a record in dollar terms in 2004.

    House Budget Committee Chairman John Spratt, D-S.C., said the new deficit figure confirms "the dismal legacy of the Bush administration: under its policies, the largest surpluses in history have been converted into the largest deficits in history."


    If you count the off the books spending in Iraq the total budget deficit is actually $570 billion.
    Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

  • #2
    Welcome to Bananaistan where they make Banana Republics look good.
    Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

    Comment


    • #3
      I'm thinking of starting a garden. A friend of mine has one with green peppers growing. Green peppers cost $1.50 each at the supermarket here in town and we used to eat a fair amount of them.

      That and I think construction on the beachhouse in the Phils will go on hold @ one story while we search for another rice field or two.
      Long time member @ Apolyton
      Civilization player since the dawn of time

      Comment


      • #4
        lol that's more than the GDP of Belgium LOL
        Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
        Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

        Comment


        • #5
          You think that you are screwed ? Well, enjoy this



          Rules 'hiding' trillions in debt
          Liability $516,348 per U.S. household

          By Dennis Cauchon
          USA TODAY

          The federal government recorded a $1.3 trillion loss last year — far more than the official $248 billion deficit — when corporate-style accounting standards are used, a USA TODAY analysis shows.

          The loss reflects a continued deterioration in the finances of Social Security and government retirement programs for civil servants and military personnel. The loss — equal to $11,434 per household — is more than Americans paid in income taxes in 2006.

          "We're on an unsustainable path and doing a great disservice to future generations," says Chris Chocola, a former Republican member of Congress from Indiana and corporate chief executive who is pushing for more accurate federal accounting.

          Modern accounting requires that corporations, state governments and local governments count expenses immediately when a transaction occurs, even if the payment will be made later.

          The federal government does not follow the rule, so promises for Social Security and Medicare don't show up when the government reports its financial condition.

          Bottom line: Taxpayers are now on the hook for a record $59.1 trillion in liabilities, a 2.3% increase from 2006. That amount is equal to $516,348 for every U.S. household. By comparison, U.S. households owe an average of $112,043 for mortgages, car loans, credit cards and all other debt combined.

          Unfunded promises made for Medicare, Social Security and federal retirement programs account for 85% of taxpayer liabilities. State and local government retirement plans account for much of the rest.

          This hidden debt is the amount taxpayers would have to pay immediately to cover government's financial obligations. Like a mortgage, it will cost more to repay the debt over time. Every U.S. household would have to pay about $31,000 a year to do so in 75 years.

          The Financial Accounting Standards Advisory Board, which sets federal accounting standards, is considering requiring the government to adopt accounting rules similar to those for corporations. The change would move Social Security and Medicare onto the government's income statement and balance sheet, instead of keeping them separate.

          The White House and the Congressional Budget Office oppose the change, arguing that the programs are not true liabilities because government can cancel or cut them.

          Chad Stone, chief economist at the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, says it can be misleading to focus on the government's unfunded liabilities because Medicare's financial problems overwhelm the analysis.

          "There is a shortfall in Medicare and Medicaid that is potentially explosive, but that is related to overall trends in health care spending," he says.
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

          Comment


          • #6
            You must be so happy, Oerdin.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
              You must be so happy, Oerdin.
              You should be more happy - isn't this yet another step closer to the revolution ?
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

              Steven Weinberg

              Comment


              • #8
                No, I am neither gleeful nor looking forward to the pain that must be endured in order to get us over capitalism and into socialism. I consider it a necessary evil, and evil doesn't make me happy.
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

                Comment


                • #9
                  Well, the faster transition the lesser pain, so the faster capitalism demonstrates it's incapability to survive, the better
                  With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                  Steven Weinberg

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    deficit spending



                    "Following John Maynard Keynes, many economists recommend deficit spending in order to moderate or end a recession, especially a severe one. When the economy has high unemployment, an increase in government purchases creates a market for business output, creating income and encouraging increases in consumer spending, which creates further increases in the demand for business output. (This is the multiplier effect). This raises the real gross domestic product (GDP) and the employment of labor, all else constant lowering the unemployment rate. (The connection between demand for GDP and unemployment is called Okun's Law.) Cutting personal taxes and/or raising transfer payments can have similar expansionary effects, though most economists would say that such policies have weaker effects. Which method has a better stimulative economic effect is a matter of debate.

                    The increased size of the market, due to government deficits, can further stimulate the economy by raising business profitability and spurring optimism, which encourages private fixed investment in factories, machines, and the like to rise. This accelerator effect stimulates demand further and encourages rising employment.

                    Similarly, running a government surplus or reducing its deficit reduces consumer and business spending and raises unemployment. This can lower the inflation rate. Any use of the government deficit to steer the macro-economy is called fiscal policy.

                    A deficit does not simply stimulate demand. If private investment is stimulated, that increases the ability of the economy to supply output in the long run. Also, if the government's deficit is spent on such things as infrastructure, basic research, public health, and education, that can also increase potential output in the long run. Finally, the high demand that a government deficit provides may actually allow greater growth of potential supply, following Verdoorn's Law."
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kidicious

                      Similarly, running a government surplus or reducing its deficit reduces consumer and business spending and raises unemployment. This can lower the inflation rate.
                      Guess that we are doomed (Denmark). We have gov surplus, reducing deficit, have raising consumer and bizz spending while the uneployment rate are dropping. We even have a decent inflation rate.

                      What are we doing wrong ?
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BlackCat


                        Guess that we are doomed (Denmark). We have gov surplus, reducing deficit, have raising consumer and bizz spending while the uneployment rate are dropping. We even have a decent inflation rate.

                        What are we doing wrong ?
                        You aren't doing anything wrong, because you aren't in a recession.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          btw, your knowledge of economics is just too poor. I'm not going to try to explain things to you.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Keynes is dead.
                            Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kidicious


                              You aren't doing anything wrong, because you aren't in a recession.
                              But according to the oposition (left wing) we are in a such - we are even battling a rediciusly low $ that invaluates our oil extremely.
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X