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    The USA: Moral of the story - don't piss off the Welsh!

    Replying to a post on another thread got me thinking...

    Did the United States come about as a proxy struggle between the Welsh and the English...?

    Just think for a minute about these facts...

    Samuel Adams AKA the "Patriarch of Liberty" and "Father of the American Revolution", basically instigated the protests against the Stamp Act, and was behind the Boston Tea Party.

    The American Constitution is based on the philosophies of Richard Price.

    Five of the first six Presidents of the USA (and the only Confederate President) were Welshmen...

    John Adams
    Thomas Jefferson
    James Madison
    James Monroe
    John Quincy Adams

    Not to mention the All Welsh Civil War between Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis...

    So, as far as I can tell, if we couldn't regain independence in England's own backyard - why not do it overseas in her colonies...?

    What I want to know is where it all went wrong after such a great start...?













    Oh BTW, America is very likely named after a Welshman - or should that be 'ap Meuriga'...?
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?
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    Leave it Blodwin
    Speaking of Erith:

    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      Re: The USA: Moral of the story - don't piss off the Welsh!

      Oh BTW, America is very likely named after a Welshman - or should that be 'ap Meuriga'...?
      It's named after Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian.

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      • #4
        Really?

        Well if it was named after him, then why isn't the US called Vespuccia, or my personal favourite, Vespucciland (just down the road from Disneyland...)...?

        Places are generally named after a person's surname, not his/her forename, unless they are royals or saints.

        Otherwise your capital would be George, D.C. (District of Christopher)...*s*******

        I think you may have been suckered in by some dodgy propaganda...
        Last edited by MOBIUS; July 13, 2008, 22:20.
        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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        • #5
          You want Democracy? We can bring you Democracy!

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          • #6
            **** the Welsh. The only reason Walses exists is to make all others look good by comparison. Ethiopia, take a bow.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #7
              Everything my old friend MOBI says is true. America is the greatest thing to ever happen to Wales because it gave the Welsh something to look forward to after leaving their nasty little bog of a principality. After it became clear to the slate quarriers that there was a better land far to the west, they did the reasonable thing and got the hell out of Wales.

              Yet more evidence that America is the best thing to ever happen to the world.
              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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              • #8
                Re: The USA: Moral of the story - don't piss off the Welsh!

                Originally posted by MOBIUS

                Five of the first six Presidents of the USA (and the only Confederate President) were Welshmen...
                Actually, they were all Americans.

                You're thinking of Tom Jones:

                What's new, pussycat?!
                Whoa, whoa, whoa!!

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                • #9
                  It's pretty sad when Tom Jones is their greatest contribution to the civilized world.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MOBIUS
                    Really?

                    Well if it was named after him, then why isn't the US called Vespuccia, or my personal favourite, Vespucciland (just down the road from Disneyland...)...?
                    He was a cartographer. Supposedly after making maps of the new world he wrote "America" or something close to that on the big empty spots.
                    I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                    I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                    • #11
                      Amerike

                      'How did America get its name?' - phrase meaning and origin
                      http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/9/messages/527.html
                      Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                      Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                      We've got both kinds

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                      • #12
                        So basically the cream of Wales left while the leftover crap stayed behind?
                        Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                        • #13


                          and the Welsh across the pond don't really like those who stayed here too much

                          **** the Welsh. The only reason Walses exists is to make all others look good by comparison. Ethiopia, take a bow.
                          Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                          GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                            Re: Re: The USA: Moral of the story - don't piss off the Welsh!

                            Originally posted by Zkribbler
                            Actually, they were all Americans.
                            All of Welsh ancestry, actually...

                            Just like about half of the signatories of the declaration of independence were also Welsh...

                            You're thinking of Tom Jones:
                            I think virtually everyone on this site would agree that Tom Jones would make a better US president than Bush Jnr.
                            Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Theben


                              He was a cartographer. Supposedly after making maps of the new world he wrote "America" or something close to that on the big empty spots.
                              Yeah, if you read Mike's link, he was given a map produced by Cabot who had named it after his sponsor - a Welshman!
                              Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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