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  • CanPol: Dion's new strategy to placate a livid Alberta: arrogant condescension

    This makes my blood boil.



    Dion grabs bull by horns

    Liberal leader pitches carbon tax plan as a way for Alberta to redeem its 'damaged' reputation

    Allan Woods
    Ottawa Bureau

    CALGARY–The federal Liberal leader drew on his past as a national-unity fighter to pitch his carbon tax plan to Albertans, saying the risk to Canada's future is as grave now as it was during the 1995 referendum.

    Stéphane Dion said he was touched by the passion Alberta residents showed for Quebec, and an indivisible Canada, in those heady days when he was recruited into then-prime minister Jean Chrétien's cabinet to take on separatists.

    Although Dion's personal reputation in Quebec has not fully recovered, the country is now restive and the threat of separation is low, the former university professor said.

    "We have a united Canada, a Canada built on clarity and mutual respect. We did it with the courage, the determination, of a cowboy from Calgary," Dion told Liberal party supporters yesterday.

    With environmental concerns high in Canadians' minds, Alberta is now the focus of so much political attention, and Dion said his plan is the only one that can repair the "damaged" reputation of the oil-producing province that is responsible for one-third of the country's greenhouse gas emissions.

    "To me, it's important for the world to know how much Albertans care about the environment, how much you are green and you want to do the right thing," he said.

    "I can't accept that your reputation is damaged, as it is now."

    The Liberal party's green plan involves taxing carbon-based fossil fuels, collecting $15 billion in revenue, and distributing the money to Canadians in the form of targeted tax cuts. It will have the greatest impact on the oil and gas industries, though Dion said foreign companies, which buy 46 per cent of Canadian oil, will end up making large contributions to the federal purse.

    "Not a penny will go in the revenue of the government. It will be the law of the land, and the auditor general will certify this year after year after year," he said.

    But the good-natured effort to cozy up to a province where his party was shut out in the last election has been hampered both by suspicions of the Liberal party generally, and the comments of one of Dion's most outspoken MPs.

    Halton MP Garth Turner was forced to issue a backhanded retraction to an assertion he made on his blog that the people of western Canada who put regional interests above national concerns are like Quebec separatists: "Self-aggrandizing, hostile, me-first, greedy, macho, selfish and balkanizing."

    Turner later said he didn't want to make the party's task in Alberta more difficult than it already is, but that he would not "lay down before people who openly advocate ripping the country apart."

    The federal Tories seized on Turner's comments, calling for an apology. Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach also took offence to the "misinformation" that the federal Liberals and most environment groups are circulating on the province's environment policies.

    "Stéphane Dion can say what he likes about Alberta, but Alberta is leading the way on the environment," said Tom Olsen, a spokesperson for the premier.

    Still, Stelmach recently launched a $25-million campaign to "rebrand" the province, improve its environmental reputation, and reach out to workers and tourists.

    Dion said his reputation, and the merits of his carbon tax plan, are also under attack by the Conservative government. The Tories have launched television ads decrying Dion's proposed "tax on everything." Prime Minister Stephen Harper warned Dion would "screw the country" with his carbon tax.

    "He's panicking. He doesn't know what to say," said the Liberal leader, who has challenged the Prime Minister to a public debate on the issue.

    "(The Conservatives) don't know how to react by a plan well received not only by the green people, not only by the economists, but more and more by our hardworking families everywhere in Canada."

    Harper was also in Calgary yesterday, before departing for G-8 meetings in Tokyo, but did not speak to reporters.

    A spokesperson for the Prime Minister's Office said Friday that Harper encourages the opposition to explain their climate-change plans, confident it will demonstrate that the government has the only feasible green plan.

    "The more they talk, the better it is for us," said Dimitri Soudas.




    Alberta's the only thing keeping Canada's economy afloat right now. Dion's supreme arrogance astounds me -- Alberta needs to repair its "reputation" in the eyes of the Quebecois and people from Ontario? Get ****ed. ****.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

  • #2
    Wait... how is arrogant condescention new?
    "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
    -Joan Robinson

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    • #3
      He always had it, but before his strategy for Alberta was to just convince Albertans that it wouldn't harm them.

      As this was clearly bull**** and dismissed as such, he changed strategies. Now he is admitting (by implication) that it will damage Alberta, but doing so will repair our "reputation" with the rest of Canada.

      This man is so stupid I do not even know where to begin.

      Alberta's reputation is so ****ing damaged its economy is the jewel of Canada right now and people from all over Canada keep flooding into the province at record levels.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #4
        I work with people that have worked in the tar sands and from what they say it's an environmental disaster. Though what Dion says is not politically wise, he has a really good point.

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        • #5
          You know for all my agreeing with Dion and holding generally pro-environment views, I'm awfully heavily invested in the Alberta oil industry. I guess I'm just more anti-losing all my money in the current crisis.
          "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
          -Joan Robinson

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          • #6
            Hmm, I'm hoping the US is keeping a couple of panze...erm, armored divisions ready to roll across the border into Alberta to confisca...ahh...protect their rights.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lancer
              Hmm, I'm hoping the US is keeping a couple of panze...erm, armored divisions ready to roll across the border into Alberta to confisca...ahh...protect their rights.
              So do I, as long as you promise to keep it.

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              • #8
                I agree. It's pretty hard to make Albertans look any worse than they already are.
                I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                • #9
                  They can't be worse than the Iraqis can they?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LotC
                    I work with people that have worked in the tar sands and from what they say it's an environmental disaster. Though what Dion says is not politically wise, he has a really good point.
                    There's nothing in there that is a good point. Destroying thousands of acres of wildlife and forests for hydro plants in Quebec is an environmental disaster as well, but no one talks about that or punishes Quebec for that, do they?

                    Alberta doesn't give a **** about the "reputation" in the rest of Canada. Right now, Canada needs Alberta a lot more than Alberta needs Canada. And Dion is not just doing something "unwise", he's showing just how clueless he is. He doesn't come close to comprehending the resentment Alberta has for Quebec and Ontario a single bit, nor does he comprehend the effects of the NEP had and the "carbon tax" will have on Alberta. He still treats Alberta like it's a little child in confederation and if they start doing what he says, we may look better in his eyes.

                    The guy is a ****ing massive ******. Nothing he said is wise or correct.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mr Snuggles


                      There's nothing in there that is a good point. Destroying thousands of acres of wildlife and forests for hydro plants in Quebec is an environmental disaster as well, but no one talks about that or punishes Quebec for that, do they?

                      Alberta doesn't give a **** about the "reputation" in the rest of Canada. Right now, Canada needs Alberta a lot more than Alberta needs Canada. And Dion is not just doing something "unwise", he's showing just how clueless he is. He doesn't come close to comprehending the resentment Alberta has for Quebec and Ontario a single bit, nor does he comprehend the effects of the NEP had and the "carbon tax" will have on Alberta. He still treats Alberta like it's a little child in confederation and if they start doing what he says, we may look better in his eyes.

                      The guy is a ****ing massive ******. Nothing he said is wise or correct.
                      It is true that Dion is a ******, but it's also true that Alberta is the armpit of Canada. BC sure as hell doesn't need you.

                      Send in the Marines Lancer!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LotC


                        It is true that Dion is a ******, but it's also true that Alberta is the armpit of Canada. BC sure as hell doesn't need you.

                        Send in the Marines Lancer!
                        BC doesn't need Alberta right now, but they become a have not province with alarming regularity.

                        What is BC's GDP anyway over the past year?

                        I don't think calling Alberta the "armpit" accurately describes the province who leads in growth, who has the strongest economy, who is wealthiest, who possesses the most educated citizens (compare % of population with post-secondary degrees in Vancouver and Calgary, for instance), and who lays claim to some of the country's most stunning landscapes.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #13
                          Umm..lolz?

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                          • #14
                            Dude, seriously, people go to Alberta to make money and then they leave to go back to where they came from. This is because Alberta is a backwards redneck infested ****hole. You talk about BC? Alberta is a textbook boom and bust economy. Whatcha gonna do if the speculative oil bubble pops?

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                            • #15
                              LotC, while Asher may be the very picture of what annoys you about Alberta, it may be wise to realise that he is one Albertan, and not a real one at that.
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