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  • Intact British ship from American Revolution found.

    HMS Ontario sank in a storm on Lake Ontario but supposedly the ship itself is remarkably intact with even some windows remaining unbroken.

    Divers find 1780 British warship

    Deep sea divers have found the wreck of a Royal Navy warship which sank during the American Revolution.

    The discovery of HMS Ontario, at the bottom of one of the Great Lakes on the US-Canada border, has been hailed an "archaeological miracle".

    The 22-gun, 80ft (24.4m) vessel, with an estimated 130 men on board, went down in Lake Ontario in a gale in 1780.

    The ship is now being treated as a war grave and there are no plans to raise it or remove any of its artefacts.

    Shipwreck enthusiasts Jim Kennard and Dan Scoville have revealed how they used side-scanning sonar and an unmanned submersible to find the ship earlier this month.

    To have a revolutionary war vessel that's practically intact is unbelievable
    Arthur Britton Smith Canadian author

    They claim HMS Ontario is the oldest confirmed shipwreck and the only fully-intact British warship to have ever been found in the North American Great Lakes.

    Canadian author Arthur Britton Smith, who chronicled the history of HMS Ontario in the 1997 book The Legend of the Lake, described the find as an "archaeological miracle".

    "To have a revolutionary war vessel that's practically intact is unbelievable," he told the Associated Press (AP) news agency.

    'Beautiful ship'

    Mr Scoville told AP that, although the vessel went down in a huge storm, it had still managed to "stay intact".

    "There are even two windows that aren't broken. Just going down, the pressure difference can break the windows. It's a beautiful ship," he said.

    The vessel is currently sitting in an area of the lake where the water is up to 500ft (152m) deep and can only be reached by the most experienced divers.

    However, Mr Kennard and Mr Scoville, who have been hunting for the ship for three years, have refused to give its exact location, saying only that it was found off the southern shore.

    The pair believe the cold, fresh water of the lake has acted as a preservative - with the lack of light and oxygen slowing decomposition - ensuring the ship has stayed intact.

    HMS Ontario is considered one of the few "Holy Grail" shipwrecks in the Great Lakes and for many years divers and shipwreck hunters have searched for the vessel without success.

    Official records quoted by the team of explorers show HMS Ontario went down on 31 October 1780 with a garrison of 60 British soldiers and a crew of about 40, mostly Canadians. There could also have been up to 30 American prisoners of war on board.

    There are about 4,700 shipwrecks in the Great Lakes, with approximately 500 in Lake Ontario.
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  • #2
    Still intact? Those Brits are on to something
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    • #3
      We Brits are always onto something. 50 years of industrial, social and political decline is just a ruse to make sure you Huns and Colonials lay down your guard and relax. And then....BAM!
      Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
      -Richard Dawkins

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      • #4
        You're engineering a virus that kills all Americans and Germans aren't you, SC?
        You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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        • #5
          neato
          Order of the Fly

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          • #6
            Blah

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Krill
              You're engineering a virus that kills all Americans and Germans aren't you, SC?
              It's made from the genetic material of Native Americans and Jews. I found the irony irresistible.
              Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
              -Richard Dawkins

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              • #8
                I think it's racist that other genetic material was not included
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                • #9
                  I am not an equal opportunities evil scientist!
                  Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
                  -Richard Dawkins

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                  • #10
                    you'll get onto the problem of killing all the first borns later, right?
                    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Krill
                      you'll get onto the problem of killing all the first borns later, right?
                      Its cliché but you know I'm a sucker for vintage.
                      Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
                      -Richard Dawkins

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                      • #12
                        Intact eh? Considering the way things are going is there any chance of surrendering to it?
                        Long time member @ Apolyton
                        Civilization player since the dawn of time

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                        • #13
                          We have the Gay Bomb. Back off, Starchild, or else we'll widen the dating pool for you...
                          The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                          The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                          • #14
                            So, next step is to sink it, right?
                            John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                            • #15
                              I think they ought to raise it and put it in a museum. Otherwise looters will take everything.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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