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    Justices Rule Terror Suspects Can Appeal in Civilian Courts

    “The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times,” Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote for the court.

    The ruling came in the latest battle between the executive branch, Congress and the courts over how to cope with dangers to the country in the post-9/11 world. Although there have been enough rulings addressing that issue to confuse all but the most diligent scholars, this latest decision, in Boumediene v. Bush, No. 06-1195, may be studied for years to come.

    In a harsh rebuke of the Bush administration, the justices rejected the administration’s argument that the individual protections provided by the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 and the Military Commissions Act of 2006 were more than adequate.

    “The costs of delay can no longer be borne by those who are held in custody,” Justice Kennedy wrote, assuming the pivotal role that some court-watchers had foreseen.

    The issues that were weighed in Thursday’s ruling went to the very heart of the separation-of-powers foundation of the United States Constitution. “To hold that the political branches may switch the Constitution on or off at will would lead to a regime in which they, not this court, say ‘what the law is,’ ” Justice Kennedy wrote, citing language in the 1803 ruling in Marbury v. Madison, in which the Supreme Court articulated its power to review acts of Congress.

    Joining Justice Kennedy’s opinion were Justices John Paul Stevens, Stephen G. Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and David H. Souter. Writing separately, Justice Souter said the dissenters did not sufficiently appreciate “the length of the disputed imprisonments, some of the prisoners represented here today having been locked up for six years.”

    The dissenters were Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Samuel A. Alito Jr., Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, generally considered the conservative wing on the high court.

    Reflecting how the case divided the court not only on legal but, perhaps, emotional lines, Justice Scalia said that the United States was “at war with radical Islamists,” and that the ruling “will almost certainly cause more Americans to get killed.”

    And Chief Justice Roberts said the majority had struck down “the most generous set of procedural protections ever afforded aliens detained by this country as enemy combatants.”

    The immediate effects of the ruling are not clear. For instance, Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon, a Pentagon spokesman, told The Associated Press he had no information on whether a hearing at Guantánamo for Omar Khadr, a Canadian charged with killing an American soldier in Afghanistan, would go forward next week, as planned. Nor was it initially clear what effects the ruling would have beyond Guantánamo.

    The 2006 Military Commission Act stripped the federal courts of jurisdiction to hear habeas corpus petitions filed by detainees challenging the bases for their confinement. That law was upheld by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit in February 2007.
    Full article at NYTimes
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    Reflecting how the case divided the court not only on legal but, perhaps, emotional lines, Justice Scalia said that the United States was “at war with radical Islamists,” and that the ruling “will almost certainly cause more Americans to get killed.”

    And Chief Justice Roberts said the majority had struck down “the most generous set of procedural protections ever afforded aliens detained by this country as enemy combatants.”


    Hopefully all the detainees can be executed before douche bag lawyers get them all off on technicalities.

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    • #3
      I like how Scalia puts his personal opinions above the wording of the Constitution. Talk about douchebag lawyers, he's their king.
      I'm consitently stupid- Japher
      I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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      • #4
        Emboldening the enemy
        Blah

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        • #5
          SCOTUS

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          • #6
            Does this mean that soldiers will start having to give Miranda warnings?
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            • #7
              SCOTUS

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Theben
                I like how Scalia puts his personal opinions above the wording of the Constitution. Talk about douchebag lawyers, he's their king.
                You know nothing. Personal opinion is necessary to interpret the constitution. Also, if you think it's constitutional to give non-citizen, non-state terror fighters the right to habeas corpus, I'd love to know what part of the constitution you're reading.

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                • #9
                  more rights for terrorists than US service members

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wiglaf
                    If you think it's constitutional to give non-citizen, non-state terror fighters the right to habeas corpus, I'd love to know what part of the constitution you're reading.
                    Boumediene v. Bush, No. 06-1195
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                    • #11
                      And four people disagreed. Not all were big bad Scalia that you lunatics beat up on.

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                      • #12
                        There is still hope.
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                        • #13
                          I don't see what horrible wrong Habeas Corpus is ... it seems to me we should have the courts deciding these things anyway. They have established procedures for dealing with secrets and such as it is ...
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            Does this mean that soldiers will start having to give Miranda warnings?
                            The alternative is like, you know, declaring war. Then it's totally cool if we kill people.
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                            • #15
                              Don't worry, Wezil. We're gonna get that Khadr yet.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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