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  • Hurray for High Gas Prices!

    This is from the famed economist Steven Levitt (of Freakonomics) from mid last year:

    For a long time I have felt the price of gasoline in the United States was way too low. Pretty much all economists believe this. Greg Mankiw blogged back in October about the many reasons why we should raise gas taxes. The reason we need high gas taxes is that there are all sorts of costs associated with my driving . . .


    June 18, 2007, 9:40 am
    Hurray For High Gas Prices!

    By Steven D. Levitt


    For a long time I have felt the price of gasoline in the United States was way too low. Pretty much all economists believe this. Greg Mankiw blogged back in October about the many reasons why we should raise gas taxes.

    The reason we need high gas taxes is that there are all sorts of costs associated with my driving that I don’t pay — someone else pays them. This is what economists call a “negative externality.” Because I don’t pay the full costs of my driving, I drive too much. Ideally, the government could correct this problem through a gas tax that aligns my own private incentive to drive with the social costs of driving.

    Three possible externalities associated with driving are the following:

    a) My driving increases congestion for other drivers;

    b) I might crash into other cars or pedestrians;

    c) My driving contributes to global warming.

    If you had to guess, which of those three considerations provides the strongest justification for a bigger tax on gasoline?

    The answer, at least based on the evidence I could find, may surprise you.

    The most obvious one is congestion. Traffic jams are a direct consequence of too many cars on the road. If you took some cars away, the remaining drivers could get places much faster. From Wikipedia’s page on traffic congestion:

    The Texas Transportation Institute estimates that in 2000 the 75 largest metropolitan areas experienced 3.6 billion vehicle-hours of delay, resulting in 5.7 billion US gallons (21.6 billion liters) in wasted fuel and $67.5 billion in lost productivity, or about 0.7% of the nation’s GDP.

    This particular study doesn’t tell us what we really need to know for estimating how big the gas tax should be (we want to know how much adding one driver to the mix affects lost productivity), but it does get to the point that, as a commuter, I’m better off if you decide to call in sick to work.

    A more subtle benefit of fewer drivers is that there would be fewer crashes. Aaron Edlin and Pinar Mandic, in a paper I was proud to publish in the Journal of Political Economy, argue convincingly that each extra driver raises the insurance costs of other drivers by about $2,000. Their key point is that, if my car is not there to crash into, maybe a crash never happens. They conclude that the appropriate tax would generate $220 billion annually. So, if they are right, reducing the number of crashes is a more important justification for a gas tax than reducing congestion. I’m not sure I believe this; it certainly is a result I never would have guessed to be true.

    How about global warming? Every gallon of gas I burn releases carbon into the atmosphere, presumably speeding global warming. If you can believe Wikipedia’s entry on the carbon tax, the social cost of a ton of carbon put into the atmosphere is about $43. (Obviously there is a huge standard of error on this number, but let’s just run with it.) If that number is right, then the gas tax needed to offset the global warming effect is about 12 cents per gallon. According to this National Academy of Sciences report, American motor vehicles burn about 160 billion gallons of gasoline and diesel each year. At 12 cents a gallon, that implies a $20 billion global warming externality. So relative to reducing congestion and lowering the number of accidents, fighting global warming is a distant third in terms of reasons to raise the gas tax. (Not that $20 billion is a small number…it just highlights how high the costs are from congestion and accidents.)

    Combining all these numbers, along with the other reasons why we should tax gas (e.g. wear and tear on roads), it seems easy to justify raising the tax on gas by at least $1 per gallon. In 2002 (the year I could easily find data for), the average tax was 42 cents per gallon, or maybe only one-third of what it should be.

    High gas prices act just like taxes, except that they are more transitory and the extra revenue goes to oil producers, refiners, and distributors instead of to the government.

    My view is that, rather than bemoaning the high price of gas, we should be celebrating it. And, if any presidential candidate should come out in favor of a $1 per gallon tax on gas, vote for that candidate.


    It seems that some of it (the global warming part) has begun to be seen just from the higher price of gas alone:

    Are you driving less than you used to? As Dubner blogged last week, Americans logged 11 billion fewer miles on the road in March of this year than they did in March 2007. That contributed to a cut of 9 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emitted by the U.S. in the first quarter of 2008. The rise of gasoline . . .


    June 4, 2008, 11:27 am
    High Gas Prices: The Environment’s Best Friend

    By Freakonomics[/b]

    Are you driving less than you used to?

    As Dubner blogged last week, Americans logged 11 billion fewer miles on the road in March of this year than they did in March 2007. That contributed to a cut of 9 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emitted by the U.S. in the first quarter of 2008.

    The rise of gasoline prices, coming at a time when most Americans are tightening their belts, has led to a spike in demand for public transit — leading the Philadelphia Inquirer to wonder whether or not the bell is tolling for America’s car culture.

    At the very least, the lean economy might make anti-driving incentives, like those in Seattle, more inviting.
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    Yeah, part of the reason I'd never get elected to public office is that my official response to, "If elected, what will you do about $4/gal. gas?" would be "Tax it until it hits $5."
    "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Victor Galis
      Yeah, part of the reason I'd never get elected to public office is that my official response to, "If elected, what will you do about $4/gal. gas?" would be "Tax it until it hits $5."
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      • #4
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Victor Galis
          Yeah, part of the reason I'd never get elected to public office is that my official response to, "If elected, what will you do about $4/gal. gas?" would be "Tax it until it hits $5."
          Yeah, sadly, that's pretty much what my response would be.

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          • #6
            I'm with VG on this one too.
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            • #7
              When will our cars start running on the blood of Iraqi children?

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              • #8
                That's just our politicians. Or at least one of them.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Victor Galis
                  Yeah, part of the reason I'd never get elected to public office is that my official response to, "If elected, what will you do about $4/gal. gas?" would be "Tax it until it hits $5."
                  Agreed. Gas taxes need to go up, up, up

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                  • #10
                    There is some truth to what's in the OP but it fails to take into account what happens to lower income workers in the USA when gas prices rise.
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                    • #11
                      Yep, it will cost them more to work and their pay will buy less. Higher fuel prices will affect the cost of pretty much everything. While many may argue that is good or even necessary it is important to remember not all consumers could handle the shift in costs.
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                      • #12
                        Low income workers should take public transit, so should middle and high income workers as well.
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                        • #13
                          Good idea. Now how do I get to the bus stop? I think there's one that's only 25 miles or so to the south.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                            Low income workers should take public transit, so should middle and high income workers as well.
                            Nice dream, just wake me up when more than a third of the U.S. population has access to any type of public transportation, and those few areas with reasonably accessible public transportation embark on the herculean expansion projects necessary to accomodate such a drastic increase in volume.


                            Anyway, OP
                            Unbelievable!

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                            • #15
                              Or maybe we need to rethink the way we build our cities. It's never going to happen until gas prices go way up.
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